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teslacoils

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
I've just looked at my bill for Aviator and they are charging me £188.10. Can anyone beat that price? Am I being robbed?

It's £166 or thereabouts everywhere. You are being robbed. It's a product everyone has, with little to no discounting.

Unless you live on a remote island and order one can.
 
The aim of the game is to do more business- that applies to virtually anyone selling a product or service. Of course the products that can be recommended in season are actually determined months in advance- they have to be because the stuff has to be forecasted for and ordered months in advance or it simply will not exist. A farmer of course can choose to buy where he likes, whether it is actually available or not is another matter.

This does not mean I had a clue what would be used in March- the stuff had to be manufactured and actually delivered first, and anyone involved with the movement of agrochemicals can tell you that is never a straight forward exercise sometimes.

When it came to the season, you have a toolbox of stuff. There would be a volume or X a volume of Y and a volume of Z. It was then up to the individual and customer concerned to formulate a strategy around them. Of course there was no end of technical support available from the manufacturers, their technical representative, your colleagues or more senior members of staff. There was still no pressure or incentive to use product A. At no point in my career was I ever offered any kind of incentive to do something such as: sell 200 packs of Ally (for example)- that kind of practice is wrong for a host of reasons that should be immediately obvious.

As such I was given a lot of individual freedom to go out and do the job as I felt best. I was able to make money by adding value on a variety of products and product choice was determined by agronomic considerations and what the customer wanted.

I wholly detest the fact that in the charge to stick it to huge companies people feel they have been shafted by historically, people are tarring much smaller independent (often family) businesses with the same brush. There are many many such companies about operated by people I have met who are not crooks, they just want to make a living and probably enjoy the flexibility and challenge of the job. Some of the agronomists I have met in that category cover a lot of acres which must by extension be owned by some of the members on this forum. These people are not crooks and the farmers concerned are not muppets- if nothing else they offer the paying customer additional choice which can be no bad thing in my book. No one is forced to use anyone and everyone's measure of value is different.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
The aim of the game is to do more business- that applies to virtually anyone selling a product or service. Of course the products that can be recommended in season are actually determined months in advance- they have to be because the stuff has to be forecasted for and ordered months in advance or it simply will not exist. A farmer of course can choose to buy where he likes, whether it is actually available or not is another matter.

This does not mean I had a clue what would be used in March- the stuff had to be manufactured and actually delivered first, and anyone involved with the movement of agrochemicals can tell you that is never a straight forward exercise sometimes.

When it came to the season, you have a toolbox of stuff. There would be a volume or X a volume of Y and a volume of Z. It was then up to the individual and customer concerned to formulate a strategy around them. Of course there was no end of technical support available from the manufacturers, their technical representative, your colleagues or more senior members of staff. There was still no pressure or incentive to use product A. At no point in my career was I ever offered any kind of incentive to do something such as: sell 200 packs of Ally (for example)- that kind of practice is wrong for a host of reasons that should be immediately obvious.

As such I was given a lot of individual freedom to go out and do the job as I felt best. I was able to make money by adding value on a variety of products and product choice was determined by agronomic considerations and what the customer wanted.

I wholly detest the fact that in the charge to stick it to huge companies people feel they have been shafted by historically, people are tarring much smaller independent (often family) businesses with the same brush. There are many many such companies about operated by people I have met who are not crooks, they just want to make a living and probably enjoy the flexibility and challenge of the job. Some of the agronomists I have met in that category cover a lot of acres which must by extension be owned by some of the members on this forum. These people are not crooks and the farmers concerned are not muppets- if nothing else they offer the paying customer additional choice which can be no bad thing in my book. No one is forced to use anyone and everyone's measure of value is different.


agree 100%

there are good agronomists and bad one just like there are good farmers and bad ones

Its life
 

Rob Holmes

Moderator
BASIS
I've just looked at my bill for Aviator and they are charging me £188.10. Can anyone beat that price? Am I being robbed?
Yep
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robbie

Member
BASIS
I've just looked at my bill for Aviator and they are charging me £188.10. Can anyone beat that price? Am I being robbed?
Supply only or serviced?????

If supply only then your getting very royally shafted if serviced then your only marginly getting shafted.

When I was on a serviced deal I was supposed to get product at supply price plus 8% service charge but this never really worked the price was inflated then 8% added resulting in some leg lifting. Your paying roughly 15% above supply price.
 

Qman

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Near Derby
Supply only or serviced?????

If supply only then your getting very royally shafted if serviced then your only marginly getting shafted.

When I was on a serviced deal I was supposed to get product at supply price plus 8% service charge but this never really worked the price was inflated then 8% added resulting in some leg lifting. Your paying roughly 15% above supply price.

It is on a serviced deal, so I'm just being shafted a bit. The same firm sent me a load (29 tonnes) of Single Top, ordered in February and charged me £290, am I being shafted on that?

Rob Holmes knows which firm I'm talking about and I get on very well with their rep. If I retired would he still be friends with me?

I know the answers to my questions and I think it's time I sorted things out.
 

robbie

Member
BASIS
It is on a serviced deal, so I'm just being shafted a bit. The same firm sent me a load (29 tonnes) of Single Top, ordered in February and charged me £290, am I being shafted on that?

Rob Holmes knows which firm I'm talking about and I get on very well with their rep. If I retired would he still be friends with me?

I know the answers to my questions and I think it's time I sorted things out.
Yep just a little on the chem but sounds like a lot on the fert. Did you not get a order confirmation at the time stating price and quantity.

I never could get supply price plus service no matter how much noise I made, it was always inflated.
 

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