Chicken shortage

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Population growth.

People don't want to do even their own menial tasks such as
mow the lawn-have a gardener
Clean the house-have a cleaner
Clean the car-take to the valeters

They then go out and spend on recreation which in turn needs more people to run around after them while they drink their Starbucks take minutes to make not seconds.

Buying time =more jobs for people that aren't there to do them.

Of course no one wants to work before 9 or after 5 either so thats created 2 jobs where one would have done it as doing that they burn out or get stress.

How many people work in the UK? About half of them!

so in a nutshell - everyone is either to well off, being supported by the state or eastern European !

a ridiculously unsustainable situation!

what breaks first that causes a massive correction?
 
what breaks first that causes a massive correction?

It's simple economics of supply & demand.

As soon as there are no Romanians to wash cars, the price rises (to attract staff) up to a point where people decide to wash their own cars, so a new equilibrium is found.

If KFC want the chickens on a JIT basis, they will have to pay what it costs or lose market share. In the short term, producers on a priced contract will get fisted by the processors.

Ultimately the consumer will pay, through inflation.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
It's simple economics of supply & demand.

As soon as there are no Romanians to wash cars, the price rises (to attract staff) up to a point where people decide to wash their own cars, so a new equilibrium is found.

If KFC want the chickens on a JIT basis, they will have to pay what it costs or lose market share. In the short term, producers on a priced contract will get fisted by the processors.

Ultimately the consumer will pay, through inflation.

trouble with inflation is it widens the gap between rich and poor

last time that happened in France 1879 it didn’t end so well !
 
Is this one of those things where farmers talk about the 'rich' without acknowledging that they are the 'rich' ?

Depends if you mean cash rich, asset rich, or in the global top 5% for income...



trouble with inflation is it widens the gap between rich and poor

last time that happened in France 1879 it didn’t end so well !

I remember learning in school about the Weimar republic of 1923, where people would take a wheelbarrow of cash to buy a loaf of bread, then get mugged on the way by someone who needed a wheelbarrow.

When I buy people books as presents I always include a Zim dollars note of half a billion or more, to use as a bookmark.
 

Will Wilson

Member
Location
Essex
Depends if you mean cash-rich, asset rich, or in the global top 5% for income...


What is the difference?

I heard a great line that being rich is the difference between being able to spend £500,000 on life-saving surgery for your child or watching your child die. Whether it's cash or assets doesn't matter.
 

Kidds

Member
Horticulture
I heard a great line that being rich is the difference between being able to spend £500,000 on life-saving surgery for your child or watching your child die. Whether it's cash or assets doesn't matter.
The line I heard was if you own a fridge and there is food in that fridge then you are in the worlds top 5% richest.
 

Poorbuthappy

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
Is this one of those things where farmers talk about the 'rich' without acknowledging that they are the 'rich' ?
Total generalisation that means nothing in reality.
Apart from the fact as alluded to we are practically all rich in the western world, in terms relative to our own society, there are rich farmers, poor farmers, and everything in between.
Not every farmer owns their land you know. And of those that do, some have hefty mortgages, and some have no borrowings.
 

-chris-

Member
Location
NR14
We grow 20,000kg of mushrooms each week and it is getting very difficult to find people to pick them. It’s a bit like dairy farming, they double in size every day and you can’t switch it off on Sundays, bank holidays and Christmas. It takes 6 weeks of planning to organise a day off for everyone on Christmas Day! We pay living wage + a good bonus for picking faster. We are competing with huge amounts of imported Polish mushrooms being picked at £4/hr. Local chicken factories have increased wages to £10.50/hr to keep/encourage staff, (mostly Eastern European with settled status).
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

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Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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