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robs1

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Yes but lockdowns prevented them from spreading.

The next bug could be really lethal, we need to be ready & lock downs are an important tool. EARLY, not once it has spread.
But covid had spread before anyone knew about it, it only takes one person to move between two places, without the testing capacity you cant contain it, china had almost total lockdown in the original province and still they have it, Oz and NZ banned virtually all entrants and shut any who did come in in quarantine and still they have cases, only 100% lockdown for at leasr three weeks might work and that is impossible, no food, no electric, no police no hospitals
 
But covid had spread before anyone knew about it, it only takes one person to move between two places, without the testing capacity you cant contain it, china had almost total lockdown in the original province and still they have it, Oz and NZ banned virtually all entrants and shut any who did come in in quarantine and still they have cases, only 100% lockdown for at leasr three weeks might work and that is impossible, no food, no electric, no police no hospitals
I thought this thread was about lockdowns not covid.

There is likely dozens of pandemics that have been stopped by localised lock downs.

No one knows how worse covid would have been without lockdowns. But no doubt if Italy had shut down its ski resorts, China had alerted the world earlier, that cruise ship had not infected everyone & then sent them all over the world. More people would have lived to benefit from the vaccines.

But forget covid the next one might be as lethal as Spanish flu better to lock down than find hundreds of millions are dead.
 
What utter shite , the world over reacted to covid and now we're paying for it
I don't swear at you Bob & you are not innocent of writing some daft stuff.

No one knew how bad Covid was a mutation could have made it worse. Governments had to act early.

I'd rather check the ewes twice a day at this time of the year, than think no problems last few days & think checking every other day would do & then find a good ewe cast & almost dead with its eyes pecked out.
 

robs1

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I thought this thread was about lockdowns not covid.

There is likely dozens of pandemics that have been stopped by localised lock downs.

No one knows how worse covid would have been without lockdowns. But no doubt if Italy had shut down its ski resorts, China had alerted the world earlier, that cruise ship had not infected everyone & then sent them all over the world. More people would have lived to benefit from the vaccines.

But forget covid the next one might be as lethal as Spanish flu better to lock down than find hundreds of millions are dead.
Lockdowns can only stop a spread these days if you do it 100% and that is impossible as china has shown, they can slow it and iirc governments said they were using them to enable health services to cope by slowing the spread.
I dont recall any government saying they would stop the spread
 
Lockdowns can only stop a spread these days if you do it 100% and that is impossible as china has shown, they can slow it and iirc governments said they were using them to enable health services to cope by slowing the spread.
I dont recall any government saying they would stop the spread
So why is SARS not endemic?

Covid is because it was allowed to spread.
 

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Lockdowns can only stop a spread these days if you do it 100% and that is impossible as china has shown, they can slow it and iirc governments said they were using them to enable health services to cope by slowing the spread.
I dont recall any government saying they would stop the spread
We also didn't know anything much about Covid, had no vaccine and thousands were dying in a very unpleasant way. So locking down was/is the only viable way a government can react in the face of such unknowns. And it undoubtedly saved thousands of lives in many countries.
 

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Man fined £300 for bonfire-related waste offences

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Written by William Kellett from Agriland

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A man has pleaded guilty at Newtownards Magistrates’ Court to waste offences relating to a bonfire next to the electrical sub-station on the Circular Road in Newtownards, Co. Down.

Gareth Gill (51) of Abbot’s Walk, Newtownards pleaded guilty to two charges under the Waste and Contaminated Land (Northern Ireland) Order 1997, for which he was fined £150 each and ordered to pay a £15 offender’s levy

On June 25, 2018, PSNI officers went to Gill’s yard, where they found a large amount of waste consisting of scrap wood, pallets, carpet and underlay.

Discussion with Northern Ireland Environment Agency (NIEA) officers confirmed the site...
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