Chinese virus - 2019-nCoV,

[betweenthelines]

Something like 40,000 die each year in the US from common flu

39,733 US gun deaths in 2018 according to google, about 550 due to TB. NRA obviously has better PR than the Medical profession.

 

[Johnnyboxer]

I was due to to go the Classic Dirtbike show at Telford this weekend

Not a massive show, indoors and maybe 5000 folks, all over uk plus Europe (France/Spain/Germany/ Netherlands and Italy)

Missus reckons it's best avoided at present & I tend to agree, so will give it a miss this year and avoid large crowds etc

Behaviour change will defeat this virus

 

[bluegreen]

So as Chinese companies attempt to go back to work this week with quarantines supposedly over this is whats happened to one of them, and probably the same fate awaits many others!

Today, two days after China officially returned to work, we got the first confirmation of just how catastrophic Beijing's order to local enterprises and businesses to rush back reboot the economy could be, when Jennifer Zeng reported that a company in Suzhou reopened, and immediately at least one CoVid2019 case found. As a result, the company's 200+ employees couldn't go home and were immediately placed under quarantine. At least the workers managed to "organize" quilts for themselves.

 

[Still Farming]

Thing is you say stay at home or local area but so many travel on holidays ,work etc etc so in reality you exposed everywhere?

 

[Raggy]

Did 14hrs flight from Ho Chi Minh to Heathrow after my hols. Landed yesterday morning. At the end of the aircraft ramp, well before Passport Control, we were greeted by maybe two dozen Border Agency staff who questioned every single passenger about their travels. Some got taken away for further questioning. Our agencies are clearly taking things very seriously.

 

[Johnnyboxer]

Sharp spike in new cases and highest daily death rate at 242 in China [emoji630]

Coronavirus: Sharp increase in deaths and cases in Hubei https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51482994

Changing your behaviour will defeat the Virus

 

[M-J-G]

39,733 US gun deaths in 2018 according to google, about 550 due to TB. NRA obviously has better PR than the Medical profession.

I'd guess there's no way on this earth that the Chinese are going to the lengths that they seem to be for the sake of a few hundred dead.

 

[radar]

At least they are not herding the population into pits and bulldozing soil soil on top and burying them alive as they are doing with their pigs to stop the spread of swine virus, yet!

 

[Steel]

Did 14hrs flight from Ho Chi Minh to Heathrow after my hols. Landed yesterday morning. At the end of the aircraft ramp, well before Passport Control, we were greeted by maybe two dozen Border Agency staff who questioned every single passenger about their travels. Some got taken away for further questioning. Our agencies are clearly taking things very seriously.

Did you cough on any border security staff to see what happens?

 

[Muck Spreader]

The bible bashers think "plague" virus will be apocalyptic and is part of the vial judgements, they may well be right, whether you think that's nonsense or not.
As Muck Spreader stated this nasty little virus is mutating very fast and could well go viral and bacterial which frankly doesn't bare thinking about!! 1 million deaths could be a gross underestimate.
There also seems to be a lot of seasonal flus and colds about this year which makes things even more difficult for those trying to contain the virus.

The Chinese government are in a awful quandary, if they push quarantined people to go back to work they are going to spread this virus like wildfire, if they don't get them back to work their economy and indeed the world economy will quickly be in very big trouble.

I did say could mutate. I think well over 20 labs worldwide have now sequenced this Genome from many patients and have shown them all to be similar, which would suggest no mutation has occurred yet. Fingers crossed.

 

[Still Farming]

Did 14hrs flight from Ho Chi Minh to Heathrow after my hols. Landed yesterday morning. At the end of the aircraft ramp, well before Passport Control, we were greeted by maybe two dozen Border Agency staff who questioned every single passenger about their travels. Some got taken away for further questioning. Our agencies are clearly taking things very seriously.

Bit late when all breath the same recycled air on the plane??

 

[stroller]

BBC Two - The Flu That Killed 50 Million

Christopher Eccleston narrates a docudrama about the 1918 flu pandemic.

www.bbc.co.uk

BBC Four - Contagion: The BBC Four Pandemic

Hannah Fry leads a nationwide experiment to help plan for the next deadly flu pandemic.

www.bbc.co.uk

Two interesting programmes

 

[stroller]

I didn't realise the 1918 flu came in two waves, the second more deadly than the first.

 

[Raggy]

Bit late when all breath the same recycled air on the plane??

Every time I heard a cough on the flight that thought went through my mind. I'm going to be keeping myself pretty much to myself for the next couple of weeks.

 

[The Agrarian]

Read somewhere that modern planes only recycle half of the air, and pass it through same filters as found in an operating theatre.

 

[Still Farming]

Read somewhere that modern planes only recycle half of the air, and pass it through same filters as found in an operating theatre.

Air costs money, in flights .
Case years ago where they "tune it back" in long night flights , and got prosecuted allegedly???

 

[neilo]

Sharp spike in new cases and highest daily death rate at 242 in China [emoji630]

Coronavirus: Sharp increase in deaths and cases in Hubei https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51482994

Changing your behaviour will defeat the Virus

The big rise in new cases is partly to a change in the way they diagnose it apparently, but yes, it doesn’t show any sign of slowing down.

 

[Still Farming]

Knock on world effects if all items made in China and all people got to stay at home ?
Interesting times ahead possibly???

 

[Gong Farmer]

Knock on world effects if all items made in China and all people got to stay at home ?
Interesting times ahead possibly???

Very reluctant to buy anything on ebay or Amazon at the moment. So difficult to avoid Chinese sources.

 

[Paddington]

Cleaning out a filing cabinet in the workshop I came across lots of pieces of bubblewrap that came wrapped around tools etc, a lot of them from Amazon. Decided I wasn't going to need them and spent several minutes happily popping until the thought crossed my mind that this could be Chinese bubblewrap including air.