Chopped straw 👎

Case290

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Worcestershire
Cloudy overcast combining, monster straw crop, blunt chopper blades claydon vdrill
= unhappy farmer luckily it’s not all like it. Could use disc drill I guess probably be ok winter beans with a disc drill any advise
 

alomy75

Member
Cloudy overcast combining, monster straw crop, blunt chopper blades claydon vdrill
= unhappy farmer luckily it’s not all like it. Could use disc drill I guess probably be ok winter beans with a disc drill any advise
If you’ve got that much straw you’re probably better off with a tine. Do the v-drills channel straw to both sides or just bung? You could straw rake and/or wait for a really sunny day? I know of someone with a 6m Claydon who nips over everything once and then turns round and does it again with seed in!
 

Tractor Boy

Member
Location
Suffolk
Cloudy overcast combining, monster straw crop, blunt chopper blades claydon vdrill
= unhappy farmer luckily it’s not all like it. Could use disc drill I guess probably be ok winter beans with a disc drill any advise
I had a V drill for about 9 years. You needed short stubble, well chopped straw and to drill in the dry or it was a pain. Beans give you a bit more leeway as I used the narrow seed points instead of A shares which had more clearance. 5 years ago I bought a 750a. This requires the complete opposite, namely longer stubble meaning less chopped straw. At first I kept the V drill but it was pointless because whilst combining you were having to cut long stubble in the hope of using the JD which meant the V drill would’ve had no chance or if you cut really short stubble hoping to use the V drill you’ve basically made sure the JD wouldn’t do a good job due to hairpinning.
 

cb387

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Glos
We had the A shares on a Horsch co4 very similar to the claydon. Very easy to block up in chopped straw. Changed them to Metcalfe 12mm points and will go through any virtually any amount of chopped straw without blocking. Our combine is an old dominator 108 and the chop isn’t brilliant
 

delilah

Member
Seems to be more ground being ploughed than in previous years in southern England.

Was talking to one of our landlords, we just graze his rough bits the rest is all arable, I made the mistake of asking how things were going, he delivered a 5 minute monologue about how the whole farm was now over to DD, cover crops, locking carbon, saving the planet, so proud etc etc. Said he had been on a train last week and couldn't believe the amount of ploughing that was going on, the tone of voice was that of someone who had witnessed a murder. I'm not sure it's a healthy attitude to have.
 

martian

DD Moderator
BASE UK Member
Location
N Herts
Was talking to one of our landlords, we just graze his rough bits the rest is all arable, I made the mistake of asking how things were going, he delivered a 5 minute monologue about how the whole farm was now over to DD, cover crops, locking carbon, saving the planet, so proud etc etc. Said he had been on a train last week and couldn't believe the amount of ploughing that was going on, the tone of voice was that of someone who had witnessed a murder. I'm not sure it's a healthy attitude to have.
You're quite right. We must strive to make everything worse as quickly as possible.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Cloudy overcast combining, monster straw crop, blunt chopper blades claydon vdrill
= unhappy farmer luckily it’s not all like it. Could use disc drill I guess probably be ok winter beans with a disc drill any advise

v drill won’t like that (from bitter, long forgot experience). Newer Claydon’s will cope fine as would a ld co style converted drill from experience
 

delilah

Member
You're quite right. We must strive to make everything worse as quickly as possible.

And folks on here wonder why ELMS is such a shambles.
Could it be because farmers have been whispering in Defra's ear "there are good farmers and bad farmers, i'm one of the good ones, you need to subsidize me, and penalize them, that's how to save the planet" ?

It is all complete and utter bollox. There is nothing wrong our side of the farm gate. We could DD everything and UK GHG emissions would not change, we could plough it all and UK GHG emissions would not change. Any farmer who persists in questioning how others choose to farm, is doing incalculable damage to the industry as a whole, which means you will suffer same as everyone else.

I have been an environmental campaigner for over 30 years, and I wont take any crap from johnny come lately farmers who see a bandwagon to jump on.

:) .
 
And folks on here wonder why ELMS is such a shambles.
Could it be because farmers have been whispering in Defra's ear "there are good farmers and bad farmers, i'm one of the good ones, you need to subsidize me, and penalize them, that's how to save the planet" ?

It is all complete and utter bollox. There is nothing wrong our side of the farm gate. We could DD everything and UK GHG emissions would not change, we could plough it all and UK GHG emissions would not change. Any farmer who persists in questioning how others choose to farm, is doing incalculable damage to the industry as a whole, which means you will suffer same as everyone else.

I have been an environmental campaigner for over 30 years, and I wont take any crap from johnny come lately farmers who see a bandwagon to jump on.

:) .

What are you campaigning for?
 

alomy75

Member
With round up hard to get you can see why more lands been ploughed
Spoke to a chap fairly high up in Bayer yesterday who has partial responsibility for roundup. There are some manufacture issues but there’s plenty for the normal seasonal requirement. Just as for fuel; people are stockpiling and causing the shortage. Doesn’t help us but interesting to know.
 

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