Spring watch going up market send half the bbc to Australia via polluting jet air travel to tell us how we are killing the planet!
Chris Packham at it again !
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Tom_o_m
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Plenty more eloquent responses, none as accurate! What a tool.
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I wanted to watch it but saw he was involved so put another channel on
Spencer
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Same here, really liked blue planet but couldn’t bide watching it with him involved. Ruined a good program!
Ditto.
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Would be happy to see that quadtrack burst into life in the first clip and see if he could out run it
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Robin Page just tweeted:
I was really looking forward to this programme but as soon as that tosser appeared it was time for a snooze!
When one considers that the RSPB etc continually tell us that they are driven by science you might wonder why you and the public have not been told the following:
https://academic.oup.com/bioscience/article/59/9/779/248536
'Apex predators have experienced catastrophic declines throughout the world as a result of human persecution and habitat loss. These collapses in top predator populations are commonly associated with dramatic increases in the abundance of smaller predators. Known as “mesopredator release,” this trophic interaction has been recorded across a range of communities and ecosystems. Mesopredator outbreaks often lead to declining prey populations, sometimes destabilizing communities and driving local extinctions'.
In Britain, humans have been the only surviving apex predator for the last several hundred years. All the mammalian, and most of the avian, predators in our ecosystem are meso-predators.
The RSPB emphasise the consequences of habitat loss and its undoubted impact on bio-diversity, however their actions confirm, even where habitat is optimised, the destruction wrought by mesopredator release. 28 of the RSPB’s reserves now have predator fencing, despite this, in 2016/17 they killed 661 carrion crows and 434 foxes. Here are the figures, with this telling observation:
‘…Predator numbers have increased in the UK over the last decades.
…The UK has very high densities of red fox and crows compared to other European countries.’
Not to mention magpies, buzzards, jackdaws, red kites, and the best documented mesopredator release of all, badgers.
You say that it is bit ridiculous saying without humans managing predators the system gets out of balance, and that is no wonder the public disagree with this.
Perhaps they disagree because the BBC have chosen Chris Packham of the Badger Trust (an organisation devoted to mesopredator release) to "inform" them about ecology.
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Avery did a presentation locally last month. It was the standard clap trap, cherry picked facts and figures blaming farming and shooting for the demise of pretty much everything
He appeared to be expecting to preach to the converted and looked flustered when farmers and shooters in the audience asked some pointed questions of his “claims”
Fat, scruffy, sweaty, rambling presentation with no graphics or power point. Oh and he has a book out you know if you bought one he would EVEN sign it for you.....
Should have bought a copy, then had a ceremonial burning outside the Hall with the audience looking on and cheering...
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Shooting fraternity are bullying a dog festival now - as alleged by CP
and therefore everything is natural
Christoph1945
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I spent most of 1984 ( a very Orwellian year ) working in Communist Poland and used to be almost awestruck by the vast flocks of crows (rooks) that could be seen undulating across the dawn skies, heading west. Like a fantastically wide, black, ribband they swept across the sky in an almost unending flow.
It looked, at the time, as though the birds were escaping the communist rule in the country but they always came heading back at dusk. I often wondered where the crows came from, where could so many crows roost at night, and where were they heading for in their dawn flights; the DDR, or perhaps West Germany?
Christoph1945
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I always believed that they were supposed to be the crowning glory of creation but am coming to believe that they are just like a flock of sheep and you know what sheep are like; don't you?
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I watched Springwatch last night ... not intentionally but it was on while I was decorating. Michaela was annoyingly chirpy I thought, but I think the dog thought I’d developed Tourette’s Syndrome. Every time CP spoke .!!
But. There is a big garden bird count thing going on, I think we should all spend a bit of time entering our details
I know in my garden I see owls foxes hens partridge pheasant curlew lapwing weasels rats mice rabbits hares the odd badger deer buzzards as well as all the usual little birds
But. There is a big garden bird count thing going on, I think we should all spend a bit of time entering our details
I know in my garden I see owls foxes hens partridge pheasant curlew lapwing weasels rats mice rabbits hares the odd badger deer buzzards as well as all the usual little birds
Rather than looking at birds .....my time will be better spent trying to get a good shot at a feral cat that taken residence out around seems not too be ratting around the buildings either, (which at least would be a bit useful )…. just prowling along the hedges
'This is a managed Conservation area'
.....my time will be better spent trying to get a good shot at a feral cat that taken residence out around seems not too be ratting around the buildings either, (which at least would be a bit useful )…. just prowling along the hedges 'This is a managed Conservation area'
farmerm
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If you take the view nature will balance itself out without human intervention you have to be willing to accept that some native prey species will naturally be predated to extinction. As I see it the existence of people has vastly changed the dynamics of predator / prey populations. Predator populations are no longer limited by prey populations, human food waste provides predator species plentiful, calorie rich diets, throughout the year, even when prey populations are in serious decline. Predators numbers in a human dominated world can continue to increase, long after the prey pyramid below them has collapsed. I take the view that humans have transformed our ecosystem to such an extent that we must take measures to control certain populations in order that other species can survive.
Scholsey
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I must admit, mid 80s communist Poland Corvids aren’t my area of expertise for a number of reasons.
Christoph1945
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Are there any farms, farmers, or farming situations that would welcome corvids as allies? You will have to remember that I am an agricultural ignorant townie but not a Chris Peckem fan. I am not an anti hunting fan and fully understand the need to control pests; all be they corvids, rats, rabbits and perhaps ignorant TV presenters.