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Claas Senator - freeing up a blockage

Discussion in 'Classic Machinery' started by New Puritan, Sep 10, 2018.

  1. New Puritan

    New Puritan Member

    Location:
    East Sussex
    So, about 5 acres from finishing this year's harvest, I've gone and seized the drum up on the combine as there appears to have been too much crop going through it for it to cope, which is surprising in itself as it wasn't a thick crop, not too weedy, and it's a narrow header.

    Is there an easy way of unblocking it? I've been lying on my front under the cab with my arms in the drum via the stone trap door trying to pull everything out, but it's jammed in there good and proper. Does anyone have any tips on getting it out - access is really bloody awful?

    The straw etc. is caught under the drum in thick wodges that don't want to pull out. Is it just a case of brute force and ignorance?

    Actually I just thought - would opening up the concave release the pressure on it?

    Grateful as ever for other' experiences / opinions on this sort of thing.
     
  2. grainboy

    grainboy Member

    Location:
    Bedfordshire
    On the end of the drum shaft, belt end, you should have ability to place long bar in the cast socket, to allow to counter rotate the drum,
     
  3. As above but open concave first which will of course make it easier.
    On the old Dom 80 if you got a massive lump in it would spring the concave open itself.
     
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  4. Bramble

    Bramble Member

    As said before, big bar, brute force, open the concave, leave drum door off.

    Maybe also open the returns elevator door in case they are full. Once it’s moving a bit give it full revs, engage threshing and hope it clears it all!!!

    Otherwise start again
     
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  5. New Puritan

    New Puritan Member

    Location:
    East Sussex
  6. Exfarmer

    Exfarmer Member

    Location:
    Bury St Edmunds
    As said drop concave fully down and if you have two speed drum put it in low. Then try to rock drum with long bar.
    Do pull out the blockage before trying to re engage, there is no worse block than one when the drum is in low gear.
    You will find a very sharp knife, a beet knife is a good tool as, it has a hook on the end, useful for pulling out the straw.
    When you get going dont forget to reset the drum concave and stone trap
     
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  7. Mursal

    Mursal Member

    Nightmare, and always happens when things are going wrong .................
    Feel your pain
     
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  8. New Puritan

    New Puritan Member

    Location:
    East Sussex
    @Mursal - were you the guy watching from the modern tractor in the next field by any chance? He got to see not only the sudden stop / smoke cloud from slipping belts etc. when it jammed, but then hear me cursing when I found I also had a puncture in one of the front tyres. How did I manage to do both of those at once? For the hat trick I then found I couldn't get the thing started to limp it back to the yard, and I had to go and get a tractor with some jump leads. I had to go home and rock quietly to myself in the corner.
     
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  9. timff

    timff Member

    Several times I had to do the bar trick on the old matador standard. Once when I mistakenly put the selector into drum speed not reel height and slowed the drum resulting in a block...!
     
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  10. New Puritan

    New Puritan Member

    Location:
    East Sussex
    @timff - ha, I'm glad it's not just me that does things like that. To be fair to myself I can't think what I really did wrong this time though - I'd only just started that small field, the last one to do, and it went and blocked. I'd just cleaned the stone trap out etc. too so I know it began nice and clear. Grr.
     
  11. Wilberforce

    Wilberforce Member

    Location:
    North Shropshire
    The joys of running a vintage/classic! Just keep telling yourself it character building!
     
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  12. timff

    timff Member

    Newpuritan you are definitely not alone! I was only about 14 when I did it so I was forgiven. Amazing what we remember. I’m over 50 now
     
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  13. Jon

    Jon Member

    Location:
    South Norfolk
  14. New Puritan

    New Puritan Member

    Location:
    East Sussex
    @Jon - depends on your definition of joy. I've just managed to free the drum off and cleared all the straw etc. out of there - opening up the concave and then putting a bar into the cast socket as per @grainboy did the trick. Thanks again to everyone who made suggestions.

    Sadly though, I started it up but the threshing mechanism and cutter bar don't engage, something starts smoking from behind the panel on the left hand side. There's insufficient room to open the panel at the moment, and I can't easily back the combine out the shed until I've changed the front tyre which has a puncture, and I'm still waiting for the tyre to arrive. The whole thing has turned into a right saga.
     
    Last edited: Sep 13, 2018
  15. Mursal

    Mursal Member

    Yes, we do have saga's as well, the simplest thing turns into a treadmill.
    Hope you get sorted .......
     
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  16. Jon

    Jon Member

    Location:
    South Norfolk
    Arh, sorry to hear that.
    Least the drums free in theory.
     
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  17. Selectamatic

    Selectamatic Member

    Location:
    North Wales
  18. New Puritan

    New Puritan Member

    Location:
    East Sussex
    @Selectamatic - milling rye. It was looking good, I'm apprehensively watching the weather at the moment, I'll be gutted if I lose the chance to get it all in. Do you fancy popping over in the Lely and finishing it for me? I'd buy you a pint.
     
  19. Selectamatic

    Selectamatic Member

    Location:
    North Wales
    Yes, by all means...
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    Looks a perfectly sensible thing to do, with such a machine!!

    What does milling rye look like? I'd imagine that it's a very small seed, and takes some keeping in the combine, does it not come out of every nook and cranny?
     
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  20. New Puritan

    New Puritan Member

    Location:
    East Sussex
    It might take you slightly longer as I'm only about 200 metres from the Kent border.

    I haven't got any photos of the rye, but it just looks like a cereal grain that's a darker brown than wheat or barley. It seems to do the soil some good, and it grows tall and outcompetes weeds very well which is helpful in my system. When I get going again I'll take some photos.
     
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