Claas Xerion 3800

Pingu

Member
Do not buy one. Engine doe not communicate with transmission burn oil when working hard wll drink 700litres of diesel a day weighs 12ton before anything added on just my opinion after driving one for the last year.
So will any near 400hp tractor! 8370 will happily munch it's 600litre tank in 10 hrs that is also 12ton with no weights. The C9 will burn oil but never found one excessive (challengers) but they lug like nothing else. It what way don't they talk as when tried I thought was great as it was low reving rather then reving at 1900 to get anywhere. This isn't a pick just tried a few and loved them and looked closely at them as a big one as was very impressed only beaten in my mind by tracks or 939 for versatility. So interested in a longer term and not rosey eyed view
 

Xerion

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Location
Deutschland
deethedraw

"Do not buy one. Engine doe not communicate with transmission"

After driving one for 12 months you would assume you would have learn't to set it up properly ? aparently not !!
I am out of Ag now but did over 25,000 hours on several Xerions from the 033 and the 781 series
in my time
Never had that problem .

"burn oil when working hard"

Never saw that problem aswell, CAT C9 was a cracking motor even with the HUEI injection system although I must admit the T2 engines were much better than the T3's especially the CLY built engines , never trusted the MBD engines !!!

"when working hard wll drink 700litres of diesel a day"


They only had a 612 ltr diesel tank ,so you tanked up and used 78 ltrs before knocking off ? It all comes back to understanding the machine and seting it up correctly , Yes the xerion will burn diesel but it's what you get for your diesel that counts .

Back to the original poster

C9 motor bullet proof if it's been looked after Eccom 3.5 transmission like wise bullet proof if been serviced correctly they are pretty well indestructable .
What you looking at ? If it's a VC model and from europe give it a good look over us sh!t boys are a bit unforgiving at times !!! anything in particular you want to know send me a PM .

Max
 

phil

Member
Location
Wexford
deethedraw

"Do not buy one. Engine doe not communicate with transmission"

After driving one for 12 months you would assume you would have learn't to set it up properly ? aparently not !!
I am out of Ag now but did over 25,000 hours on several Xerions from the 033 and the 781 series
in my time
Never had that problem .

"burn oil when working hard"

Never saw that problem aswell, CAT C9 was a cracking motor even with the HUEI injection system although I must admit the T2 engines were much better than the T3's especially the CLY built engines , never trusted the MBD engines !!!

"when working hard wll drink 700litres of diesel a day"


They only had a 612 ltr diesel tank ,so you tanked up and used 78 ltrs before knocking off ? It all comes back to understanding the machine and seting it up correctly , Yes the xerion will burn diesel but it's what you get for your diesel that counts .

Back to the original poster

C9 motor bullet proof if it's been looked after Eccom 3.5 transmission like wise bullet proof if been serviced correctly they are pretty well indestructable .
What you looking at ? If it's a VC model and from europe give it a good look over us sh!t boys are a bit unforgiving at times !!! anything in particular you want to know send me a PM .

Max
They just seem underrated
Seem like an ideal arable tractor drill etc

Are they more popular in continent
 

phil

Member
Location
Wexford
So will any near 400hp tractor! 8370 will happily munch it's 600litre tank in 10 hrs that is also 12ton with no weights. The C9 will burn oil but never found one excessive (challengers) but they lug like nothing else. It what way don't they talk as when tried I thought was great as it was low reving rather then reving at 1900 to get anywhere. This isn't a pick just tried a few and loved them and looked closely at them as a big one as was very impressed only beaten in my mind by tracks or 939 for versatility. So interested in a longer term and not rosey eyed view
How do compare to a 939 on a drill
Does length make them more awkward or do they have a tight turning circle
 

Frankzy

Member
Location
Jamtland, Sweden
Neighbours business has a Xerion 5000 strapped to a big wood chipper. Despite some serious abuse a burnt out PTO clutch pack is all they've had to replace on the (very smart looking) tractor.
The chipper on the other hand is starting to develop several fatigue cracks and play in the crane, probably because of the drivers...
 

Pingu

Member
How do compare to a 939 on a drill
Does length make them more awkward or do they have a tight turning circle
I only had one briefly on cultivations and for that it leaves a 939 standing but on a drill I'd would probably choose 939 as far more nimble and over 1.3t lighter but xerion I tried was on 800's but I think it wasn't to bad for its size
 

phil

Member
Location
Wexford
I only had one briefly on cultivations and for that it leaves a 939 standing but on a drill I'd would probably choose 939 as far more nimble and over 1.3t lighter but xerion I tried was on 800's but I think it wasn't to bad for its size
What's turning circle like on 800s
 

James

Member
Location
Comber, Down
neighbour has had a 3300 for quite a few yrs now on its second set of triple mowers so it must be doing something right other than that I haven't heard anything about it. know of 2 others over here one on mowers too and the other mainly does drilling afaik
 
What's turning circle like on 800s

Excellent tractor ...... probably one of the best we've ever hired. Did everything asked of it and more. Extremely frugal when compared to a challenger and far far more versatile. On paper a 939 would be more versatile than a xerion but I used the hired one for corn carting on a 12t trailer for a few days, so it depends what you mean by versatile?

It just wasn't man enough for the job asked of it at the time and it was swapped for a challenger 865 which subsequently liked to use 120l/hour spot rate .......... This is in turn was swapped for a 939 which again when worked hard liked 80l/hour spot rate. obviously averages were less and iirc the xerion averaged about 40l/hour which was pulling a 6m solo and 6m rapid drill. It just couldn't get enough forward speed with the solo for effective chopped straw mixing and left lumps due to the slower speed, hence why it left.

The only negative were the 800 tyres as it did reduce the turning circle a lot compared to a 3300 on 650's which was also on hire at the same time, so as a happy medium I would go for the tall 710mm tyres if possible. I think they were 710 / 85 .......
 

Curt

Member
Do they still make these smaller xerions? I would love to see one on tracks
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Found on the Internet, would love to put it through its paces to compare against our quadtrac
 

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