Clarkson on the nail again?

Bignor Farmer

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There's nothing wrong with wanting to preserve one's home nation's culture and ethnicity.

Multiculturalism doesn't work. That's why London is awash with black gang bangers stabbing and shooting each other, Asian rape gangs prey on white girls, and the authorities we pay to protect us turn a blind eye in the name of racial harmony.
I don’t hold any great opinion either way. If I was starving in a war torn corner of Africa I’d probably try and get to the EU too.

The western opinions on migration have definitely shifted to be less tolerant than a few decades ago so you can see a big issue looming with rising food prices.
 

melted welly

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Three things wrong with Clarkson's scenario:

1. There isn't actually a shortage of oil or gas -there's just a supply/distribution issue

2. The hike in fert prices is due to 1.

3. 90% of Ukraine's land area is not a war zone, wheat etc. is being grown as normal.

Is not one issue that a lot of machinery operators are away from the day job fighting Russians?
 

Jonp

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Absolutely. And if I was born a Palestinian, I'd probably be launching rockets against Israel.
Or anyone who perceives that an injustice had been carried out on them by wealthy militarised foreigners ..... fighting back using what is cheap and available be that stones, suicide vests, IEDs, car bombs or even flying planes into buildings.
 

Jackov Altraids

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Can I humbly suggest that a far better read than the Clarkson bit in the magazine is the Dominic Lawson opinion piece in the main section.

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A good article that completely avoids the the issue of vested interests.
A lot of criticism of organic comes from big business who don't make any money from it.
Of course the government would back private firms owning and leasing 'Crispr' produce. But farmers would be just as well to invest in fake meat as be enslaved into making profits for them.
 

BrianV

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is it just me or can anyone else hear private Frazer :) :)
Talk of private Frazer, his lovely daughter Veronica now sadly passed away bought this 80 acre moorland farm & then gave it to Devon Wildlife but not before kindly giving our family a 50 year FBT after we had worked with her for several years restoring the boundary walls & clearing all the scrub.:)
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Sid

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A good article that completely avoids the the issue of vested interests.
A lot of criticism of organic comes from big business who don't make any money from it.
Of course the government would back private firms owning and leasing 'Crispr' produce. But farmers would be just as well to invest in fake meat as be enslaved into making profits for them.

Food has become bland and tasteless, so multinationals have added salt and sugar to hype up the taste which then leads to health issues , which are "solved" by more multinational pharmaceutical companies.

Hamster wheel anyone?

I'm glad I'm not on it!
 

Sid

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It certainly helps Boris break British farming. The extra licensing costs while having our produce banned from the EU and unpopular at home.
How many times do you hear people stating that food doesn't taste like it used to.
But then their standard of living is so much "higher" holidays, new cars,home decorations, short breaks.

At least they have somewhere they can cut back on. Those on the poverty line don't
 

Sid

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Three things wrong with Clarkson's scenario:

1. There isn't actually a shortage of oil or gas -there's just a supply/distribution issue

2. The hike in fert prices is due to 1.

3. 90% of Ukraine's land area is not a war zone, wheat etc. is being grown as normal.
If you can't get supply then isn't that a shortage in the market?
If you stick you head an inch below the surface the supply issue will kill you!
 

Y Fan Wen

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Talk of private Frazer, his lovely daughter Veronica now sadly passed away bought this 80 acre moorland farm & then gave it to Devon Wildlife but not before kindly giving our family a 50 year FBT after we had worked with her for a several years restoring the boundary walls & clearing all the scrub.:)
Does that mean you were 'unwilding' it?
Sorry, couldn't resist it. Lovely photos.
 

Sid

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Three things wrong with Clarkson's scenario:

1. There isn't actually a shortage of oil or gas -there's just a supply/distribution issue

2. The hike in fert prices is due to 1.

3. 90% of Ukraine's land area is not a war zone, wheat etc. is being grown as normal.
I'll add to that the world will never run out of oil.
As supply dwindles or harvesting it becomes more and more costly, it will get astronomically expensive and only be affordable by the elite.
 
Is there a need for a centrally managed solution as far as the individual farmer is concerned. In fact the individual farmer is managing his/her business as they see fit for their own benefit even as we speak and breathe. Some are cutting back production. Many are using less fertiliser, some are carrying on as usual. Many are mitigating the perceived risk to their financial position. Not many are managing their business with the primary aim, or even a thought about avoiding a widespread famine irrespective of whether it hurts or benefits them financially.
So as always, every individual farm business has their own solution.
I remember you posting that with the new NVZ rules in Wales, you may give up milking or at least drastically cut production, so there we have an example of the government, with a centrally managed solution to pollution from the water companies actively doing all they can to reduce food production.
 
The simple fact is that it is likely that when there is a shortage, the people with the highest income can afford to buy while those on the lowest income can’t. It is completely pointless being idealistic and saying that incomes should be levelled worldwide because the simple fact is that it can never be. Up until lately world poverty was at its lowest level ever in history, or at least since the industrial revolution. That is about to change again, for the worse.
It is also complete bullpoo when people point out that in an increasingly wealthy society, the gap between rich and poor widens. Well duh! Of course it does because the gap between 0 and 50 is only half as much as between zero and 100. Simple economics or even basic maths. The aim should be to make as many people as possible relatively wealthy and as few as possible in real poverty. But to achieve the aim of not having poverty, wealth quality jobs has to be created.

It should be obvious that one of the major causes of poverty worldwide is conflict and war. Followed in a close second by corruption at all levels of society. Third is an inept governance including the inability to collect and utilise taxes.
It should be obvious that one of the major causes of poverty worldwide is conflict and war. Followed in a close second by corruption at all levels of society. Third is an inept governance including the inability to collect and utilise taxes.

I think a major cause of poverty is lack of education, and I will add, if we educate women in the third world, they have fewer children, which again is better for the globe especially in terms of global warming.
 

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Man fined £300 for bonfire-related waste offences

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Written by William Kellett from Agriland

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A man has pleaded guilty at Newtownards Magistrates’ Court to waste offences relating to a bonfire next to the electrical sub-station on the Circular Road in Newtownards, Co. Down.

Gareth Gill (51) of Abbot’s Walk, Newtownards pleaded guilty to two charges under the Waste and Contaminated Land (Northern Ireland) Order 1997, for which he was fined £150 each and ordered to pay a £15 offender’s levy

On June 25, 2018, PSNI officers went to Gill’s yard, where they found a large amount of waste consisting of scrap wood, pallets, carpet and underlay.

Discussion with Northern Ireland Environment Agency (NIEA) officers confirmed the site...
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