Clarkson on the nail again?

egbert

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nor am I, I was quite happy with 1000 quid a ton fert, just didn't buy any
Same here. My 'bit part' in affairs won't make much difference....... a few tonnes less beef on the market in 2-3 years.

however....
Just a soupcon of asking pals down the hill, who grow a bit of corn has revealed...
1 fella who grows a hundreds of acres of arable, buys fert months in advance, and hasn't decided what to do for 2023.
Another grows a lot of spuds and corn, fattens a lot of conti bullocks. He's only bought a fraction of his annual fert
A third who grows a bit of corn, and fattens a few bullocks...he's only bought a 1/4 of his fert.

It's hard to believe these stories aren't being played out across this country and others, and cannot help but have a major effect of crop size.
There has to be some fallout.
 

Bill the Bass

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cumbria
Not a chance
An MP who is a contender for chairman of the AG sub committee was at a local mart this week

His 1st line was "Isn`t it wonderful the gov are paying half the SFP in July"
He was surprised when the response was No. Doesn`t go anywhere to address the situation
Someone at the gathering was pondering how someone can be so out of touch with current situation.
This. Can’t believe they want praise for early payment when they are reducing rates by 25% this year
 

robs1

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My prediction is that next Sunday Clarkson will once again rise to his editors challenge; give me 1000 entertaining but ultimately pointless words that our readers can nod along to.
So despite being asked several times you wont make any predictions as yo what the food supply situation is going to be, it's a very simple fact that the worlds food supply has been just enough to meet demand over the last few years, if the poorer areas could afford to eat more then I'm not sure we gave actually produced potential demand, now farmers all round the world are going to cut back production due to the risk of high fert prices, even if production falls by 5% it will cause huge spikes in food prices that's not even taking into account the impact of the war.
 

onesiedale

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Derbyshire
@delilah in fairness though, JC's 1000 words for his editor is written as an observation and is therefore not required to give the solutions. None of us can argue with the broader view of his observations.

My Grandfather always said "it's not what you see, but what you observe that is important"

I suppose the big questions now are not only who is coming up with solutions, but what are they actually doing. As an industry there are very few credible solutions being offered. However, individually there are a lot of farmers and food producers just quietly getting on with it and sorting out solutions that work for themselves.

I just hope that those who are supposed to be making decisions that have national consequences are being pro-active in looking realistically at the resources here in the UK and how they are to be used to the benefit of the UK
 
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An Gof

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Location
Cornwall
Same here. My 'bit part' in affairs won't make much difference....... a few tonnes less beef on the market in 2-3 years.

however....
Just a soupcon of asking pals down the hill, who grow a bit of corn has revealed...
1 fella who grows a hundreds of acres of arable, buys fert months in advance, and hasn't decided what to do for 2023.
Another grows a lot of spuds and corn, fattens a lot of conti bullocks. He's only bought a fraction of his annual fert
A third who grows a bit of corn, and fattens a few bullocks...he's only bought a 1/4 of his fert.

It's hard to believe these stories aren't being played out across this country and others, and cannot help but have a major effect of crop size.
There has to be some fallout.

You need to cross the river 🤣 fert all bought for next year and we are full on again 👍
Might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb 🤣🤦
 

Grass And Grain

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorks
hope nobody is stupid enough to spend it on over priced fert for a loss making crop
Talking to beef and sheep producers around here they mostly seem to have cut back on N rates. Some have rented in a bit more ground (usually some grass fields arable farmers can't be bothered with), but I think if they don't produce as much grass, then maybe the only supplement will be bought in grain.

So even more grain demand??

Flip side might be less pigs and chickens due to uneconomic.
 

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