Classics Earning their keep.

[Lincsman]

Please buy following harrows with the slide over centre coupling

I know where there is a set of 5 that are little used from new stored inside.

 

[Nearly]

Got the impression they had no idea what a lot of it was

I need to buy a big pack of tie on labels and a marker pen.

 

[Tomtrac]

Got the impression they had no idea what a lot of it was

What was the sale and where at

 

[Tomtrac]

I need to buy a big pack of tie on labels and a marker pen.

You could always mark them up and put a todays price on for her
but then she may bash you on the head and have a sale and go off on a cruise

 

[Nearly]

What was the sale and where at

Tractors and drainage machinery sale at Potto by Northallerton Auctions.
TW20 going to the home for its second 40 years.

 

[New Puritan]

Please buy following harrows with the slide over centre coupling

@Flat 10 - is that the sort of long handle thing that bolts to the underneath of the back of the drill, which you then hook some zig zags to? Or something else?

Using that drill was a bit of an experiment. I usually use a smaller MF30 drill which I've got some zig zags to bump along behind, but I don't have any wide enough for that bigger drill. The small one is a disc drill and works better on the clay, but it's a bit poorly so the tine drill was unearthed from the back of the shed. It did an alright job actually, though the proof will be when the crop starts to emerge.

Why did old drills not cover the seed anyway? It seems like they only do half a job (or two thirds)?

 

[Flat 10]

@Flat 10 - is that the sort of long handle thing that bolts to the underneath of the back of the drill, which you then hook some zig zags to? Or something else?

Using that drill was a bit of an experiment. I usually use a smaller MF30 drill which I've got some zig zags to bump along behind, but I don't have any wide enough for that bigger drill. The small one is a disc drill and works better on the clay, but it's a bit poorly so the tine drill was unearthed from the back of the shed. It did an alright job actually, though the proof will be when the crop starts to emerge.

Why did old drills not cover the seed anyway? It seems like they only do half a job (or two thirds)?

You were expected to tow harrows i think. I think it was from time horses couldn't pull drill and harrow. Apparently my grandfather had a mule that followed the drill with the harrows. An early combination drill! What's wrong with the 30 disc drill?

 

[New Puritan]

Nothing that can't be fixed with some head scratching / replacement odds & ends / a hammer I think. Basically it's all a bit worn, so it leaks seed in various places and the discs need replacing. I used it last spring and wasn't all that happy with the results. Ideally I'd like to buy something better, but nothing has presented itself so far in terms of budget / distance to view & collect, so beggars can't be choosers and these old MF30s are here and more or less usable.

I did wonder if it was the horsepower (or lack of) that meant they didn't harrow it in as well, but then again by the time they had 4 metre MF30s like this they must have? Was the mule tied to the back of the drill or did it need a driver of its own?

 

[Flat 10]

Nothing that can't be fixed with some head scratching / replacement odds & ends / a hammer I think. Basically it's all a bit worn, so it leaks seed in various places and the discs need replacing. I used it last spring and wasn't all that happy with the results. Ideally I'd like to buy something better, but nothing has presented itself so far in terms of budget / distance to view & collect, so beggars can't be choosers and these old MF30s are here and more or less usable.

I did wonder if it was the horsepower (or lack of) that meant they didn't harrow it in as well, but then again by the time they had 4 metre MF30s like this they must have? Was the mule tied to the back of the drill or did it need a driver of its own?

Yes they had HP and yes mule tied behind.

 

[Happy hillbily]

Power cut in the middle of milking yesterday, so droped off the fert spreader, and hitched up the genny. Handy having the in cab selectable pto speed lever. On the 7610 i would have to change shafts, to get it to run in 1000 rpm mode.
The 6640 not quite as good as the 7610 for holding pto rpm, when various motors coming on and off you could hear it change, but there we are it is 20hp less.

 

[Lincsman]

Power cut in the middle of milking yesterday, so droped off the fert spreader, and hitched up the genny. Handy having the in cab selectable pto speed lever. On the 7610 i would have to change shafts, to get it to run in 1000 rpm mode.
The 6640 not quite as good as the 7610 for holding pto rpm, when various motors coming on and off you could hear it change, but there we are it is 20hp less.View attachment 788696

Interesting, would have expected the power star engine to cope better than old tech 10 series engine, what revs would each be running at?

 

[Happy hillbily]

Interesting, would have expected the power star engine to cope better than old tech 10 series engine, what revs would each be running at?

Both probably around about 1050 - 1100 engine rpm to give the 540 pto output, but as i said the 6640 is 85hp and the 7610 is 105hp (it has a yr 2000 series 3 10 series replacement engine) not sure what the torque figures for both are.

 

[windymiller]

Power cut in the middle of milking yesterday, so droped off the fert spreader, and hitched up the genny. Handy having the in cab selectable pto speed lever. On the 7610 i would have to change shafts, to get it to run in 1000 rpm mode.
The 6640 not quite as good as the 7610 for holding pto rpm, when various motors coming on and off you could hear it change, but there we are it is 20hp less.View attachment 788696

What size twins you got, on what size wheels? Twins are narrower are they?

 

[Happy hillbily]

I spotted the duals on facebook a month or two back . Been looking for a set like these for a very long time. There 13.6 R38, but on step down rims to fit 34"wheels.
Ive swapped the tyres with the 7610 i have, so instead of 16.9 r34, and 13.6 r24, shes on 480/70/34 and 380/70/24, so there is a slightly narrower gap between the tyres, but their perfect for working on these hills. But because their only 13,6 tyres on the duals, the whole outfit is only 9ft 5 inch wide, so should be able to go down the lane without removing one of the duals (hopefully).

 

[Two Tone]

 

[Two Tone]

TW 35 that pulled itself in half

 

[Flat 10]

Someone has a fair collection.....
Shame to see the T dub outside. I would have the 8100 from choice I think

 

[hendrebc]

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TW 35 that pulled itself in half

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How did the TW manage that? Any pictures?

 

[Two Tone]

How did the TW manage that? Any pictures?

There are a lot of M10 bolts between the gearbox and the 4x4 drop box that stretch. If you notice oil drops on the floor overnight, you must change these bolts (not tighten them up). It didn’t get done on this one.
It was on a 6 furrow DP 7 plough and because the bolts weren’t tight it started to bend on the flanged joint which cracked them and twisted the internal shafts. Then as the plough was lifted, it stalled the engine. The driver had to let the plough down to restart the engine, got out to check what went wrong and noticed it was pissing oil out of the gearbox. Goodbye to a good old tractor, unfortunately.

Would have cost £5k each for the gearbox and transfer box castings to replace and repair 15 years ago.

 

[Shovelhands]

There are a lot M10 bolts between the gearbox and the 4x4 drop box that stretch. If you notice oil drop on the floor over night, you must change these bolts ( not tighten them up). It didn’t get done on this one.
It was on a 6 furrow DP 7 plough and because the bolts weren’t tight it started to bend on that flanged joint and twist the internal shafts. Then as the plough was lifted, it stalled the engine. Goodbye to a good old tractor unfortunately.

Would have cost ab £6 to repair 15 years ago.

Is it not possible to replace these damaged parts?