Have you thought of a Sabre tine (Weaving's own machine, or their tines on something else). Nice and simple, cheap to run. It works well on our flinty land here where we get through a lot of wearing metal, goes nice and deep for beans.Would like to open our drilling windows up with a mounted direct tine drill.
Claydon and triton I know are different designs/concepts but they are the two I would choose between.
any thoughts welcome
The problem is our big sprinter just doesn’t work when it’s wet, the packer blocks. Way before the soil is actually in a horrible state and I’ve seen Claydon’s running beautifully the same day. It’s more for winter beans and second wheat. We have compromised some establishment this year on some later drilled what as had to use the avatar into some chopped straw, and whilst the crop is okay it could have been quite abit better.Having seen a mounted 3m claydon used here on med heavy clay, it is very heavy and when turning on the ends puts a lot of weight on the rear (250hp ish wheeled tractor). If you're trying to extend the drilling window then I'm guessing this means going in wetter conditions, so this doesn't seem like a great thing to be doing? Especially as the narrower width means a lot more headland turning compared to your 12m. Do you want to drill more acres or specifically drill later?
Standard TFF response by the way, ignore the question and imply you're doing it wrong based on my own specific niche experiences....
Hi Adam,
We have a 6m Sabre tine (the newer one but with the metal tank) which we bough to get us out of bother when the GD would not go. It will be fine on your 8RX but it is seriously heavy (about 3.5m unladen). Our 8370 knows it's there and you need plenty of front weight. The plastic tank saves some kg but it's not a game changer. Last year we took the tyres off - the older model has them in front of the tines which is better. Our problem this year was with any straw on the surface it acts like a rake and just keeps pulling it until you lift at the end of the field, so we have some fairly impressive heaps around the farm.
The sabre tine with the front hopper is great but my understanding is that it is not a quick job to put it on.
Don't forget the fert spreader and spring tine but probably not in unworked land!
Feel free to come and have a look. I realise it is neither a Claydon or Triton so doesn't help with your actual question.
Regards
Rob
Have a look at making some thing like sjt has ,The problem is our big sprinter just doesn’t work when it’s wet, the packer blocks. Way before the soil is actually in a horrible state and I’ve seen Claydon’s running beautifully the same day. It’s more for winter beans and second wheat. We have compromised some establishment this year on some later drilled what as had to use the avatar into some chopped straw, and whilst the crop is okay it could have been quite abit better.
We can put our front hopper sabretine on in about 20 mins .Hi Adam,
We have a 6m Sabre tine (the newer one but with the metal tank) which we bough to get us out of bother when the GD would not go. It will be fine on your 8RX but it is seriously heavy (about 3.5m unladen). Our 8370 knows it's there and you need plenty of front weight. The plastic tank saves some kg but it's not a game changer. Last year we took the tyres off - the older model has them in front of the tines which is better. Our problem this year was with any straw on the surface it acts like a rake and just keeps pulling it until you lift at the end of the field, so we have some fairly impressive heaps around the farm.
The sabre tine with the front hopper is great but my understanding is that it is not a quick job to put it on.
Don't forget the fert spreader and spring tine but probably not in unworked land!
Feel free to come and have a look. I realise it is neither a Claydon or Triton so doesn't help with your actual question.
Regards
Rob
I’ve seen them used really effectively into October around here. Why would it make more compaction out of any of the others out of interest?I have been researching the claydon. My understanding is theyre more of a September drill than a November one. Go in late and they’ll give you a crop but also compaction.
Have a look at making some thing like sjt has ,
lightweight ,does not look owt fancy ,but having seen it working ,
we on the look out for a 4/6 m drag frame to make similar
Go and see Les Carter , choose a frame , cue the A Team musicHave a look at making some thing like sjt has ,
lightweight ,does not look owt fancy ,but having seen it working ,
we on the look out for a 4/6 m drag frame to make similar
Hi Bob,We can put our front hopper sabretine on in about 20 mins .
We use a 1.5 ton front hopper and that’s plenty to of weight on you front axle. It really is a nicely balanced outfit that can be used on a lot lighter tractor which is handy if the the conditions are not ideal .Hi Bob,
Sounds like it might be a good bit of kit then - apologies! The weight and the smallish hopper capacity have been my biggest reservations of ours so yours must be great to use.
Similar to low disturbance subsoiler in wet. But guess if it’s too wet even a plough/combie ain’t going to preform.I’ve seen them used really effectively into October around here. Why would it make more compaction out of any of the others out of interest?
To be fair if it was wet I wouldn’t use the leading leg at any depthSimilar to low disturbance subsoiler in wet. But guess if it’s too wet even a plough/combie ain’t going to preform.
Despite what Horsch say, I find a simple scraper transforms the Sprinter in the wetThe problem is our big sprinter just doesn’t work when it’s wet, the packer blocks. Way before the soil is actually in a horrible state and I’ve seen Claydon’s running beautifully the same day. It’s more for winter beans and second wheat. We have compromised some establishment this year on some later drilled what as had to use the avatar into some chopped straw, and whilst the crop is okay it could have been quite abit better.
Have you got some more detailed pictures you would be willing to share with me please?Despite what Horsch say, I find a simple scraper transforms the Sprinter in the wet
I will take some tomorrow for youHave you got some more detailed pictures you would be willing to share with me please?