Claydon v Mzuri

[beefandsleep]

Don’t hear much about t-sem on here. Does anyone have any experience?

 

[juke]

Don’t hear much about t-sem on here. Does anyone have any experience?

There were a couple running the t sem drills

 

[whindy]

I had a look at them on line did not like the look of the spring time holding the t boot . Thought on stones they may snap

 

[juke]

I had a look at them on line did not like the look of the spring time holding the t boot . Thought on stones they may snap

Have you had any demos yet whindy ?

 

[Brisel]

@rob1 Runs a T Sem. Some of his ground is stony.

 

[whindy]

Have you had any demos yet whindy ?

Trying a sprinter out at moment
Had some done with a Claydon it was our worst crop of wheat.
So not keen pulled a lot of stones up .
The more I look at muzuri it looks like it would find even more. Have not used the sprinter on stony land yet.

 

[juke]

How was it put in with the claydon what was the stubble management like also the conditions ? Did they use a hybrid drill or one of the older types ? Were you following a break crop or into a 2 nd cereal situation

 

[whindy]

How was it put in with the claydon what was the stubble management like also the conditions ? Did they use a hybrid drill or one of the older types ? Were you following a break crop or into a 2 nd cereal situation

Followed oats raked and sprayed . The problem was the contractor! We assumed he new what he was doing. In hind site it was to wet the bands filled with water and drained poorly. The wheat sat in mud all winter so did not put roots down. Then the dry summer hit it .Drought finally did for it
The drill was probably not at fault just operator.it was not an sr so pulled up a lot of stones.

 

[Badshot]

I'm not sure you should be looking at any tine based drill if you don't want stones pulling up.
They will all pull them up.
But then I'm not sure a disc is right either, it'll roll over stones.
I think you defo need to get demos of as many as possible
My gd might cope if the stones weren't too big.
Or maybe the sly boss drill.
I've seen a 750 disc that was used on flint, it was very blunt.
Very difficult.

 

[Badshot]

Followed oats raked and sprayed . The problem was the contractor! We assumed he new what he was doing. In hind site it was to wet the bands filled with water and drained poorly. The wheat sat in mud all winter so did not put roots down. Then the dry summer hit it .Drought finally did for it
The drill was probably not at fault just operator.it was not an sr so pulled up a lot of stones.

The Sr will still pull up stones, they just have hydraulic break back.

 

[Brisel]

Sky? It's an improved version of a Moore Uni drill. It will be better in stones but will not rip a root channel.

 

[whindy]

I think 20 years of ploughing then combi has left stones buried so we are pulling up more . We are putting a express low disturbance legs through stubble now
Which is pulling a few up but not to bad . I think going dd would after a while reduce stones as not disturbing stones as will be same depth every year.

 

[Brisel]

Strip time drills like the Mzuri and Claydon will fetch stones up for years and rolls will not bury them well. I’m forever picking big sandstones up. Luckily the flints smash up with rolls. Don’t skimp on PGRs for a while as you really don’t want to be picking stones out of the combine. No till will gradually bury them as the worms will bring soil up. Look at Roman roads to see what 2000 years does with topsoil creation and recycling. They are all buried.

 

[YELROM]

Strip time drills like the Mzuri and Claydon will fetch stones up for years and rolls will not bury them well. I’m forever picking big sandstones up. Luckily the flints smash up with rolls. Don’t skimp on PGRs for a while as you really don’t want to be picking stones out of the combine. No till will gradually bury them as the worms will bring soil up. Look at Roman roads to see what 2000 years does with topsoil creation and recycling. They are all buried.

That's a fair while to wait to bury the stones though

 

[true blue 1872]

Maybe a bit more 220/240 on heavy if you want to get a bit done but would add that the extra hp is seen in the work that the front leg does

How much HP would you need for a 4 metre on heavy land?

 

[d williams]

How much HP would you need for a 4 metre on heavy land?

Minimum 270hp a lot will be down to how much you want the front leg to do

 

[Wigeon]

Chap round me has 375 on tracks on 4m. Stiff ground, and some hills though.

 

[true blue 1872]

Minimum 270hp a lot will be down to how much you want the front leg to do

Ok thanks, biggest tractor is a Fendt 724 so will just demo a 3 metre, thanks for the info!

 

[true blue 1872]

Chap round me has 375 on tracks on 4m. Stiff ground, and some hills though.

Thanks for the info... Think I’ll demo the 3m,
724 might struggle with a 4 metre
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