Claydon v Mzuri

[whindy]

Which is the best of the two
Might go and have a look at a mzuri tomorrow. Pro till 3 what should I look out for?

 

[whindy]

Sorry it is a zip TIL 3

 

[juke]

claydon hybrid is the drill you want , superior drill in my experience

 

[Brisel]

Try both, and have a look at a Pro Till and Sumo DTS while you're at it. IMO the Zip Till is a cheaper version of the Pro Till. It will depend on what soil you're on & what you want to drill through. Not sure about the Zip Till's trash handling capability. @AF Salers had one a while ago.

I chose a Claydon Hybrid for its simplicity, though seed depth is inconsistent. The Pro Till came second but was heavier, more complicated but arguably would have been better on heavier land if I'd had a bigger tractor to pull it.

 

[E_B]

Don't think they've made Zip Tils for a while so I wouldn't bother unless you know of a used one in great order that interests you.

 

[juke]

Try both, and have a look at a Pro Till and Sumo DTS while you're at it. IMO the Zip Till is a cheaper version of the Pro Till. It will depend on what soil you're on & what you want to drill through. Not sure about the Zip Till's trash handling capability. @AF Salers had one a while ago.

I chose a Claydon Hybrid for its simplicity, though seed depth is inconsistent. The Pro Till came second but was heavier, more complicated but arguably would have been better on heavier land if I'd had a bigger tractor to pull it.

Getting seed depth is more of an issue on the wider mounted drills because of the extra depth wheels ??

 

[Brisel]

Getting seed depth is more of an issue on the wider mounted drills because of the extra depth wheels ??

It was more to do with the fixed coulters but yes, on soft ground it does put seed deeper, though that never harms yield as it's the lighter soil that establishes better anyway.

 

[juke]

It was more to do with the fixed coulters but yes, on soft ground it does put seed deeper, though that never harms yield as it's the lighter soil that establishes better anyway.

Is your land doing like what Geoff says and getting more level the more you use the drill, ours definitely is but that's just with a 3 m it's getting like a billard table

 

[whindy]

Don't think they've made Zip Tils for a while so I wouldn't bother unless you know of a used one in great order that interests you.

Seen one in a dealer s add .
I made a mistake and bought a 4m free flow in a sale [emoji20] done 25 ac with it . It s not for our land to many stones for it .should have gone strip till as was the original plan . But could not resist a bargain.

 

[juke]

Forget strip till if you have really stoney land unless your gonna bin the leading leg off n put a disc on, be forever on picking stones.

 

[mo!]

I didn't think we had stones until we bought a DTS.

 

[Brisel]

Forget strip till if you have really stoney land unless your gonna bin the leading leg off n put a disc on, be forever on picking stones.

The disc is great but only once your soils are sorted. The rest of us newbies need a tine in to pull through the tight layers. A good set of rolls with an operator prepared to pick the few bigger ones sorts them.

 

[juke]

The disc is great but only once your soils are sorted. The rest of us newbies need a tine in to pull through the tight layers. A good set of rolls with an operator prepared to pick the few bigger ones sorts them.

The disc is just a question of faith.. I would always recommend the leg for osr/ bean drilling. Saying that we have used the disc before to drill beans as a experiment.. You are quite right about getting a good roller man.
Btw those apm legs are very good for getting the extra depth 7inch A shares are no trouble as well.

 

[Brisel]

Is your land doing like what Geoff says and getting more level the more you use the drill, ours definitely is but that's just with a 3 m it's getting like a billard table

Got a way to go yet - any paddle blockages come out as lumps so there's always some levelling to do. Most of the lumps fall out as I pick up on the headland so that's where it is most uneven. You need the paddles down to cover the seed but I can't carry much soil or it bungs up in any kind of stubble or damp conditions.

 

[Fish]

Seen one in a dealer s add .
I made a mistake and bought a 4m free flow in a sale [emoji20] done 25 ac with it . It s not for our land to many stones for it .should have gone strip till as was the original plan . But could not resist a bargain.

Why don't you convert the free flow to metcalf legs, and try DD.

 

[whindy]

Why don't you convert the free flow to metcalf legs, and try DD.

Would it take more pulling?
As only have JD 6155 or tuned 6150 180hp

 

[Fish]

Would it take more pulling?
As only have JD 6155 or tuned 6150 180hp

If you can pull it now, why would you not be able to pull it with Metcalfe legs, you could always reduce the number of points.
+ if you are concerned that you could not pull it, you will never pull a 3m mzuri, those things are very power hungry.

 

[Brisel]

You’ll want 200hp to be boss of a 3m Mzuri on heavy or steep ground

 

[mo!]

You’ll want 200hp to be boss of a 3m Mzuri on heavy or steep ground

ProTil, Yes. ZipTil should manage with less.

 

[d williams]

You’ll want 200hp to be boss of a 3m Mzuri on heavy or steep ground

Maybe a bit more 220/240 on heavy if you want to get a bit done but would add that the extra hp is seen in the work that the front leg does