I realy like this side wall effect after dts it help to protect crops from the wind in winter and help snow to stay in seed 'trench'
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How much are the Mzuri contractors charging . As they cost a bit more to start with and need a few more ponies.
If its wet , too big pressure convert too much drill weight transfert to depth control/consolidation wheels. In result of this you make to big soil compaction and the soil stock to the wheels much more. Also when You put too much pressure its Come worth for drilling depth all over field if You have diferent type of soil. As You know on sandy soil this tyres will make deeper footprint, so depth will be much more than on Hill with Red clay... Usualy if it start stick clay to tyres, we go home...
Cow1
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Interesting opinion.
I find with my Mzuri you still want high Coulter pressure on in sticky conditions as it makes the coulters sit at their work better.
I would be more worried about the big tractor and heavy drill causing soil compaction than the little press wheels at the back.
I dislike the furrow effect. Hard to consolidate the soil around the seed with the rolls which gives slugs an easier trench to eat their way up. The rings just ride over the uncultivated ridges.
Mzuri pro till and sumo dts are completely different work philosophies. Completely different technical solutions.
Maybe small press wheels would help instead of first row of padle bords
and put Green harrow at the END.
We would sometimes rake after drilling, but it is easier to use the batterboards or two rows of green harrows to try and level things properly on drill really.
At times I liked the ridge effect as it would protect emerging beans fron harsh freezing January winds for example, andI am sure more slug pellets gravitate to the bottom of the trench when spreading, rather than on the ridge?
I wish someone would make a DD drill that could swap between tines and discs easily according to the task .They could make alot of money IMO.
At times I liked the ridge effect as it would protect emerging beans fron harsh freezing January winds for example, andI am sure more slug pellets gravitate to the bottom of the trench when spreading, rather than on the ridge?
I wish someone would make a DD drill that could swap between tines and discs easily according to the task .They could make alot of money IMO.
I think that is a good idea for lighter soils but you might struggle to do much good on strong clays?Maybe small press wheels would help instead of first row of padle bords
The mzuri pro till we tried was the worst for this same at another local farm, it could of been the way was set but it looked like someone had been planting taties not wheat.. really well built machine same as the dts, they just didn't bring what the claydon does to the party, it's a shame vadderstad didn't get there idea with the spirit strip drill going a bit better.
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that drill would be the holy grail thought the same thing for a while. I think the sumo tool bar is as close as this has come up till now , or there versa drill with its retractable cultivator legs
How you think What make this diference in crop growth?
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I guess You are right. But all this striptill drills is Made up for different soil types and aims. I like that dts dont smash all straw residues all over working width. I found that if You Can drill wery shallow and here is no straw on head of young crop it is more tendet to tiller.
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d williams
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£33/ac we are charging with a min 10ac charge
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Plenty of talk about Claydon, Sumo and Mzuri, but never any mention of McConnell, does anyone have one, as I’ve only ever seen static ones at shows and one working at Clive’s drilling demo a few years back?
Nearly a carbon copy of the claydon
This one?
Looks closer to a Mzuri than a Claydon. It doesn't look that bad either.
I didn't look at it before I bought my Claydon because they didn't do a 6m version & I'd have to deal with the nightmare of spare parts that is the Alamo Group's just-in-time parts stock system. That time being months not days
Looks closer to a Mzuri than a Claydon. It doesn't look that bad either.
I didn't look at it before I bought my Claydon because they didn't do a 6m version & I'd have to deal with the nightmare of spare parts that is the Alamo Group's just-in-time parts stock system. That time being months not days
Flintstone
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I’m in year four with my Claydon, and it’s revolutionised my farming and I do 1,100 acres with it.
No staff at all.
No cultivation equipment at all. (Not even in the hedge!).
One tractor on 1,100 acres.
I saved £80,000 per annum overnight on fixed costs.
Yields are up (genuinely) by 7% on wheat, and unchanged on rape compared to min till before. I don’t know how much of this uplift is varietal/seasonal though.
Drilling opportunities with soil/weather are better so I find I always drill in better conditions.
Downsides:
I made the mistake of extending my 4 metre Hybrid with the 0.8 metre extension kit back in the summer and it ruined the drill, so that’s coming off and going back this winter.
When I was buying, I looked at Mzuri but it needed too much hp per metre and I wanted a medium sized tractor on the front of my sprayer. The owner seemed rather too pleased with himself too which put me off.
I looked at DTS, and ordered one, but bottled out due to too many stories about poor trash flow, and new SUMO owners being terrible with back-up.
I honestly don’t know why more people don’t look in to Claydon. Their product support and parts service is fantastic and they’re a good bunch of people too.
No staff at all.
No cultivation equipment at all. (Not even in the hedge!).
One tractor on 1,100 acres.
I saved £80,000 per annum overnight on fixed costs.
Yields are up (genuinely) by 7% on wheat, and unchanged on rape compared to min till before. I don’t know how much of this uplift is varietal/seasonal though.
Drilling opportunities with soil/weather are better so I find I always drill in better conditions.
Downsides:
I made the mistake of extending my 4 metre Hybrid with the 0.8 metre extension kit back in the summer and it ruined the drill, so that’s coming off and going back this winter.
When I was buying, I looked at Mzuri but it needed too much hp per metre and I wanted a medium sized tractor on the front of my sprayer. The owner seemed rather too pleased with himself too which put me off.
I looked at DTS, and ordered one, but bottled out due to too many stories about poor trash flow, and new SUMO owners being terrible with back-up.
I honestly don’t know why more people don’t look in to Claydon. Their product support and parts service is fantastic and they’re a good bunch of people too.
Some very tidy crops there
£80k saving? What were you doing before? I'm on 2200 acres of crops & managed £49k savings by moving to this system. How do you find spring crop yields? This is one area I'm not happy with - my spring barley yields have dipped since using the Claydon after years of ploughing but then again we've had 2 late spring dry spells for the last 2 years since starting strip till which have compromised crop growth.
Can you tell us why you didn't like the 4.8m kit please?