Clean stubbles?

Steevo

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Location
Gloucestershire
Anybody else finding stubbles are almost perfectly clean this year? A month after harvest almost all stubbles are almost perfectly clean.

Doubt I’ll need to be using much roundup this autumn which is one benefit given the current situation.
 

Barleymow

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Ipswich
Too dry to germinate, though disced and rolled after winter beans have a good flush of volunteers, will disc this week to sort them out
 

Flatlander

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lorette Manitoba
Very dry growing season here with tillers too thirsty to continue growing. Once the crop was off and we had some rain they decided to grow with a vengeance. Disced them in today as they were starting to head out. Should add some organic matter back in the soil.
 

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Two Tone

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Mixed Farmer
Anybody else finding stubbles are almost perfectly clean this year? A month after harvest almost all stubbles are almost perfectly clean.

Doubt I’ll need to be using much roundup this autumn which is one benefit given the current situation.
I was thinking the same and hadn’t Roundup’d off some of my wheat stubbles before DD drilling them with Winter Barley. Then, by Thursday afternoon, after Tuesday’s deluge, they had definitely greened up.
 

ajd132

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Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
I was thinking the same and hadn’t Roundup’d off some of my wheat stubbles before DD drilling them with Winter Barley. Then, by Thursday afternoon, after Tuesday’s deluge, they had definitely greened up.
That’s fine we tend to just to the glyphosate and pre em at the same time
 

Two Tone

Member
Mixed Farmer
That’s fine we tend to just to the glyphosate and pre em at the same time
Slightly worried that my pre-em mix of Liquid Avadex, Crystal and DFF might be a bit overloaded adding Roundup.
Also. If the Volunteer Wheat, BLW’s and BG it drilled into before the Roundup, will having disturbed it, reduce the Roundup’s efficacy?
 

ajd132

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Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
Slightly worried that my pre-em mix of Liquid Avadex, Crystal and DFF might be a bit overloaded adding Roundup.
Also. If the Volunteer Wheat, BLW’s and BG it drilled into before the Roundup, will having disturbed it, reduce the Roundup’s efficacy?
No it works all fine. Pre em with a disc drill
 

Two Tone

Member
Mixed Farmer
No it works all fine. Pre em with a disc drill
Thanks for that.
Got another question which you may be able to help me with please:

We are at the end of our 5 year Mid-tier stewardship agreement, part of which was a few very bad Blackgrass fields that were in GS4, Herb and Legume-rich Pastures. The theory being that they release an enzyme the supposedly kills BG (though purely the fact that they have been it it for 5 years, should help anyway!).
I am moving the GS4 to the next worst BG area and will plant the existing area with Wheat.
We have just taken a 2nd cut off it, but there was bugger all, because it has run out of steam anyway.
I don’t want to plough it because being in grass, the soil is in good nick. So plan to Weaving GD DD drill straight into it.

Question:
It will need a good dose of 3 or more litres Roundup Flex to kill the grass, legumes and Chicory in it. We deliberately didn’t cut it short, so as to keep it green enough for the Roundup to work.
WOULD YOU do it before it is drilled (if so, how long do you leave it before drilling?), OR drill it and put all the Roundup in with the pre-em?

I remember seeing something similar on one of they DD threads last year which worked incredibly well. I can’t remember who posted it and whether or not the Roundup’d it pre or post drilling into the sward.

Perhaps @Warnesworth could also give his opinion please?
Or anybody else familiar with DDing?
 
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robs1

Member
Thanks for that.
Got another question which you may be able to help me with please:

We are at the end of our 5 year Mid-tier stewardship agreement, part of which was a few very bad Blackgrass fields that were in GS4, Herb and Legume-rich Pastures. The theory being that they release an enzyme the supposedly kills BG (though purely the fact that they have been it it for 5 years, should help anyway!).
I am moving the GS4 to the next worst BG area and will plant the existing area with Wheat.
We have just taken a 2nd cut off it, but there was bugger all, because it has run out of steam anyway.
I don’t want to plough it because being in grass, the soil is in good nick. So plan to Weaving GD DD drill straight into it.

Question:
It will need a good dose of 3 or more litres Roundup Flex to kill the grass, legumes and Chicory in it. We deliberately didn’t cut it short, so as to keep it green enough for the Roundup to work.
WOULD YOU do it before it is drilled (if so, how long do you leave it before drilling?), OR drill it and put all the Roundup in with the pre-em?

I remember seeing something similar on one of they DD threads last year which worked incredibly well. I can’t remember who posted it and whether or not the Roundup’d it pre or post drilling into the sward.

Perhaps @Warnesworth could also give his opinion please?
Or anybody else familiar with DDing?
Label always says 1.5 litres post drilling not sure that is enough for big weeds etc, I worry that with a tine drill some small weeds can be covered with soil and miss the spray
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Sorry I did rely but didn’t take in what you had said. Yes you are correct the label is 540 post drilling so it all goes on pre drilling!
I think we tended to overuse it. I won’t need it where I plough unless we get a big flush of volunteers through the ploughing, before drilling. I’ll manage without it, but not in a no till situation.
Withdrawn of actives, fusarium, ergot, wet winters is killing off no till for us.
 

ajd132

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
I think we tended to overuse it. I won’t need it where I plough unless we get a big flush of volunteers through the ploughing, before drilling. I’ll manage without it, but not in a no till situation.
Withdrawn of actives, fusarium, ergot, wet winters is killing off no till for us.
Sorry I edited my post pretty quickly as I hadn’t read what was said properly so your reply might not make much sense to others.
On another note I do know for a fact that their is glyphosate replacements in the works.
 

Flatlander

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lorette Manitoba
Sorry I edited my post pretty quickly as I hadn’t read what was said properly so your reply might not make much sense to others.
On another note I do know for a fact that their is glyphosate replacements in the works.
No big surprise that the replacement is coming,better,environmently safe and secured to the hilt with a Chinese proof patent. Oh and only twice the cost.
 

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Update on the Sustainable Farming Incentive pilot

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