Click or crovect??

[Moors Lad]

The Op said his ewes have an inch of wool on them !

Fair point. Sorry I wandered off from the original post. Guess I`ve a bit of a thing about Dysect - just find it horrible to work with and I didn`t like the fact it spoilt the appearance of my draft ewes that year.

 

[Ballamor]

We use clikzin on lambs and ewes in April and clik extra on ewes once clipped, need to have fly cover from April to end of October.
Clikzin has short withdrawal so still able to sell culls after lambing. Used to use crovect but still getting fly strike where no product so waste o bloody time using it as stock covered. Also always seemed to be coughing when using crovect
Dysect wasn't impressed with that eiyher

That must cost a pretty penny doing them twice with a clik product. I cant understand how clikzin is almost the same price as clik ?

 

[michael N123]

Dip

 

[neilo]

Dip

Three times to get the same length of blowfly cover? That would make Clik look cheap, if blowfly is the only problem.

 

[An ancient git]

Did lambs 20/4 with Clik Extra . Will Clikzin late Aug again . That gives whole season cover (and easy to sell with 7 day C'zin w/draw) . Total cost approx £1.50 per lamb . Easy , peace of mind , effective , and not mega money !

 

[An ancient git]

Going back to thread , Clik Extra those winter sheared ewes , and basically do season for about £1.25/ewe . Not over excessive ?

 

[Yale]

Done the permethrin thing and got the tee shirt,was even ill after applying Dysect on a hot day.

Lifes too short not to use Clik.

 

[Nithsdale]

Elanco will love this thread.

I sense another price increase, knowing you're all willingly bent over their barrel with your trousers down.

 

[neilo]

Elanco will love this thread.

I sense another price increase, knowing you're all willingly bent over their barrel with your trousers down.

There is no denying that the active ingredient in Clik is effective, reliable and easy to use, as well as being one of the least unpleasant to work with both during application and when handling treated sheep afterwards.

However, I’m counting down the days to it going off patent and a more cost effective generic coming on the market. Given the way the price has cranked up in recent years, you would think there must be a fair margin in it, enough to make the market attractive to other manufacturers.

 

[Nithsdale]

There is no denying that the active ingredient in Clik is effective, reliable and easy to use, as well as being one of the least unpleasant to work with both during application and when handling treated sheep afterwards.

However, I’m counting down the days to it going off patent and a more cost effective generic coming on the market. Given the way the price has cranked up in recent years, you would think there must be a fair margin in it, enough to make the market attractive to other manufacturers.

I can't and won't knock the product. It is undoubtedly the best fly strike prevention our industry has.


But I hate Elanco - their business model and attitude absoloutley stinks.

They have systematically bought up every other drug company which has had a unique product - be it Novartis with Clik, or Janssen (I think it was??) with Vecoxan so that they have a drugs monopoly on the industry... they have then automatically increased the retail price substantially of the newly acquired products exploiting its customers who have nowhere else to turn.

They don't want to offer a service to this industry - they want to bleed us dry.

For that reason I will not buy anything of theirs if I can get a comparative product somewhere else. We need them to have competition.

 

[Green farmer]

Elanco will love this thread.

I sense another price increase, knowing you're all willingly bent over their barrel with your trousers down.

Was at Athenry sheep open day about 5-6 years ago. Clik had a stand there. I went up and asked them could they sell me some clik directly. They said they couldnt as weren't licenced to sell directly. Then I started talking about about the constant price increases. The guy said, ya, he couldn't really understand it. He said they saw different what retailers were changing, but he couldnt understand it as they hadn't increased the wholsale price. He urged me to shop around. I dont know if I was being told the truth or not, but he sounded genuine. I've done that since. Regularly buy it €40 a bottle cheaper off smaller independent outlets that order it in for me instead of the main coops. Youd be shocked what some retailers think they can get away with.

 

[Nithsdale]

Was at Athenry sheep open day about 5-6 years ago. Clik had a stand there. I went up and asked them could they sell me some clik directly. They said they couldnt as weren't licenced to sell directly. Then I started talking about about the constant price increases. The guy said, ya, he couldn't really understand it. He said they saw different what retailers were changing, but he couldnt understand it as they hadn't increased the wholsale price. He urged me to shop around. I dont know if I was being told the truth or not, but I've done that since. Regularly buy it €40 a bottle cheaper off smaller independent outlets that order it in for me instead of the main coops.

The last few years my local store/pharmacy were sourcing/buying Vecoxan from wholesalers in Spain and importing it themselves. They were passing on the huge savings over Elanco UK prices. Their opinion of Elanco is about as low as my own.

There's no need anymore, as the Vecoxan AI is off licence and Chanelle have brought out Dycoxan - which Downland are rebrading as Coxicert. The price has came back a bit now, with open competition

 

[Green farmer]

The last few years my local store/pharmacy were sourcing/buying Vecoxan from wholesalers in Spain and importing it themselves. They were passing on the huge savings over Elanco UK prices. Their opinion of Elanco is about as low as my own.

There's no need anymore, as the Vecoxan AI is off licence and Chanelle have brought out Dycoxan - which Downland are rebrading as Coxicert. The price has came back a bit now, with open competition

Anyone know when clik is due to come off licence ?

 

[neilo]

Anyone know when clik is due to come off licence ?

This Autumn iirc.

 

[Ciderman8961]

That must cost a pretty penny doing them twice with a clik product. I cant understand how clikzin is almost the same price as clik ?

Yeah does cost but far easier that trying to get through 1600 ewes if you haven't done them and you get caught early by fly strike.
Have fly issues from early/mid April to mid October. Did try crovect for the cheaper option but make you I'll that stuff would much sooner pay the extra than feel like sh!t

 

[Steevo]

Am I the only one who was expecting this to be about shopping?!

Personally I prefer delivery.

 

[andybk]

anyone had any issues using click after crovect , did my dec ewe lambs 5 weeks ago with crovect , will need a reapplication soon , just wondered if the crovect residue will stop click moving through fleece .

 

[neilo]

anyone had any issues using click after crovect , did my dec ewe lambs 5 weeks ago with crovect , will need a reapplication soon , just wondered if the crovect residue will stop click moving through fleece .

I wouldn’t have thought there would be any issue, even if the Crovect was still there.

iirc Clik spreads over the grease on the skin (hence can be done ‘off shears’) whereas Crovect just stays atttached to the wool it was applied too, without spreading.

 

[Cvx1170]

Fkuk crovect and their shitt bottles, either the little valve drips on you all day, or just blows right off the lid and pours the crovect down your bum

 

[Nithsdale]

Fkuk crovect and their shitt bottles, either the little valve drips on you all day, or just blows right off the lid and pours the crovect down your bum

Crovect use the same bottles and tops as Clik, because it's all Elanco