Clik

andybk

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Mendips Somerset
Ag merchants said click might be done away with and just have click extra

more like the original licence has run out , so generic might be about in future , and will cost them to relicence , they had to change the formula t(the extra ) keep ahead of the game a few years back , As a product its good , but far to expensive cocidering sheep returns ,double price of alternatives is what its worth , im more likely to use cheaper 8 week chems combined with autumn shearing in future, the ones i did last autumn were 10-15 kg ahead off the rest back off grass only winter keep .
 
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farmerm

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Shropshire
First maggots of the year yesterday on a particularly dirty ewe... I was expecting she might have some, only little ones thankfully.

killed a double digit number of blow flies in the house today for some reason too :spitoutdummy:
 

Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
ClikZin is the exact same ai as Clik, but at a quarter of the rate. Reducing the application rate seemingly just reduces the length of protection, rather than the efficacy.
Mode of action is very different to a wormer, as it doesn’t provide a lethal dose, just acts as a growth regulator. If a lower dose of Clik could cause increased resistance, then so could use of ClikZin.

Clik Extra is supposed to be effective for longer. The only difference between that and the standard Clik, is the higher concentration of the ai.
I know what it is a vet uni did a trial here with it before it came on general sale.

1. How does the maths work out on mwdl times :unsure:

2. Even 5ml clik needs to be spread out properly or it wont work. And that wont be easy on that small amount of liquid.
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
I know what it is a vet uni did a trial here with it before it came on general sale.

1. How does the maths work out on mwdl times :unsure:

2. Even 5ml clik needs to be spread out properly or it wont work. And that wont be easy.

1. No maths involved on withdrawal times. If you use the product that has ‘Clik’ on the label then, even if you apply the same amount of ai as ClikZin, you need to adhere to the 40 day Clik withdrawal period.

2. I’d agree that it would be better spread properly, but it certainly spreads far better than Crovect type products, which only protect the bit they land on.
 

Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
1. No maths involved on withdrawal times. If you use the product that has ‘Clik’ on the label then, even if you apply the same amount of ai as ClikZin, you need to adhere to the 40 day Clik withdrawal period.

2. I’d agree that it would be better spread properly, but it certainly spreads far better than Crovect type products, which only protect the bit they land on.
A quarter of active ingredient should mean quarter of the mwdl times which would be 10 days .:confused:

It kills dungs beetles and aquatic life as well .. :(

Perhaps it best not to read the label....:rolleyes:
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
A quarter of active ingredient should mean quarter of the mwdl times which would be 10 days .:confused:

It kills dungs beetles and aquatic life as well .. :(

Perhaps it best not to read the label....:rolleyes:

No. If you use product from the bottle labelled Clik, that’s the withdrawal period you have to abide by, or so I was told by someone from Elanco that didn’t like where my argument was going.:D
 

unlacedgecko

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Fife
Can't understand you guys saying the fan nozzle is wasteful. Are they worn out?
I think they used to recommend a new nozzle / gun each year which sounds like a good ploy for sales but they definitely get worn and spray pattern deteriorates.
I find the fan easy to use. Recommendation is to divide the dose into 3 or 4 squirts to cover the sheep.

4 squirts.

One from each hock upwards, crossing at the tail head.

One tail head forwards to mid spine.

One from back of head backwards to mid spine.
 
Can't understand you guys saying the fan nozzle is wasteful. Are they worn out?
I think they used to recommend a new nozzle / gun each year which sounds like a good ploy for sales but they definitely get worn and spray pattern deteriorates.
I find the fan easy to use. Recommendation is to divide the dose into 3 or 4 squirts to cover the sheep.
Fan nozzles are useless. Unless you are Clint Eastwood they are very wasteful. Putting up to 20ml out in 0.5 seconds you need to be a good shot
 

reverand

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Location
East lancs hills
more like the original licence has run out , so generic might be about in future , and will cost them to relicence , they had to change the formula t(the extra ) keep ahead of the game a few years back , As a product its good , but far to expensive cocidering sheep returns ,double price of alternatives is what its worth , im more likely to use cheaper 8 week chems combined with autumn shearing in future, the ones i did last autumn were 10-15 kg ahead off the rest back off grass only winter keep .
A likely reason
 

Poorbuthappy

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
10ml guns the clik ones are but it’s 3-4 squirts to do a decent size lamb, the simcro with T-bar you set at 25ml and can squeeze gently and do the whole lamb and dock?
So for 25ml dose I would set at 8ml or so and give 3 squirts. As above they recommend 4 squirts. Either is quick and accurate .

Fan nozzles are useless. Unless you are Clint Eastwood they are very wasteful. Putting up to 20ml out in 0.5 seconds you need to be a good shot
The guns are all 10ml now (have been for years afaik) and as above doses should be divided into multiple squirts which is quick and accurate .
 

gatepost

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Location
Cotswolds
It's just one part of my marketing strategy---
Right now i should remind you of the price of fly repellents (but you beat me to it)
Then I will have to remind you of the pleasures of flystrike when the chemicals don't work
Then of the pleasures of waiting for the shearers to arrive or the weather to allow shearing
Then of course it's the dagging fun
Then it'll be lambing time again and all those lambs tails that need ringing

Of course you'll get your own back when you wave that big fat wool cheque in my face :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Not to forget, that once the government legislate, man made fibres will be illegal and woollen underpants the norm, we will be rolling in it, literally.
 
So for 25ml dose I would set at 8ml or so and give 3 squirts. As above they recommend 4 squirts. Either is quick and accurate .


The guns are all 10ml now (have been for years afaik) and as above doses should be divided into multiple squirts which is quick and accurate .
We get a Phillips metal gun and a nozzle of our man. If you went today that’s what you would get
 

Six Dogs

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Location
Wiltshire
So for 25ml dose I would set at 8ml or so and give 3 squirts. As above they recommend 4 squirts. Either is quick and accurate .


The guns are all 10ml now (have been for years afaik) and as above doses should be divided into multiple squirts which is quick and accurate .

The product needs 50% of the dose on the top line 50% around the rump,you are a better man than me if you apply evenly with one 25 ml setting
 

shearerlad

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Livestock Farmer
I use a black Crovect branded gun with fan nozzle. Maybe not a proper Clik gun but still never had an issue. Takes 2 or 3 lambs to get my swipe action “calibrated”

Edit. Photo of said gun. Usually has fan nozzle on but the T-bar was used for Dysect

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David.

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Mixed Farmer
Location
J11 M40
As a matter of interest, can Clik or Clikzin be identified separately in the fleece if anyone wanted to check that wdl times were being adhered to?
If for example someone were to try and use 1/4 rate Clik, or watered down Clik, instead of buying expensive Elanco water in Clikzin.
 

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