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I did one of these for tenderstem broccoli and we were brilliant minimum tillage, no fertilizer,minimal chemicals.Then we pack it in plastic and put it on an aeroplane. Still I will keep doing it until no one wants it anymore.

I don't know what the environmental impact of airline freight is. The products you and many others supply appears on the shelves irrespective of the season in the UK and always looks great and I am always staggered by the availability of fruit and veg in the supermarkets. If there is a more noble use of fossil fuels I do not know what it is.
 
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I don't know what the environmental impact of airline freight is. The products you and many others supply appears on the shelves irrespective of the season in the UK and always looks great and I am always staggered by the availability of fruit and veg in the supermarkets. If there is a more noble use of fossil fuels I do not know what it is.


Are you serious?

Flying food around the planet just so wealthy Westerners can have strawberries in December is "noble"?

The noble option is to grow food to feed the hungry local (in World terms) population.
 

Lowland1

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Are you serious?

Flying food around the planet just so wealthy Westerners can have strawberries in December is "noble"?

The noble option is to grow food to feed the hungry local (in World terms) population.
That shows a total lack of understanding there is generally plenty of food in Africa. Famine has usually occurred because of wars or political upheaval. What people here need is money. I can grow Maize on my farm and employ 5 people or export veg and employ 400 people plus another 100 in the pack house plus extra people involved in the export side and it brings foreign exchange into the country which is desperately needed. Also every person working is directly supporting probably at the very least another half dozen or so relatives. I am not doing it because it’s noble but there are definitely some blurred lines. And why shouldn’t people eat strawberries in December if they want and anyway they are far more likely to be roaded from Spain.
 
Are you serious?

Flying food around the planet just so wealthy Westerners can have strawberries in December is "noble"?

The noble option is to grow food to feed the hungry local (in World terms) population.

No, it is a noble use of fossil fuels that people have access to fresh fruit and vegetables all year round and at a very very reasonable price. That I can buy avocado, peaches, pears and any assortment of veg in December is a modern marvel in my eyes. Never let it be said that the modern food chain does not provide the British public access to a wide range of healthy eating options at any time of year. More than adequate for even those on low incomes to get access to an adequate range of nutrition all year round. I view it as a success story.
 
Unsure what the question is, or who is asking it of you, but in any event, just say "There is nothing wrong my side of the farm gate". If they come back at you, just repeat "There is nothing wrong my side of the farm gate". Until they go away.
And if any of your national representative bodies don't back you up in that statement, sack them.


I agree with the response in general but unfortunately that doesn't seem to apply to the civil service nor the MPs which respond to civil service reports.

We need our representatives to be "On the ball" .. some how we need to give feed back to our representation (if there is any) to ensure our concerns and narrative is being listened to - same with our MPs.

I've never seen any of this legislation removed during my lifetime although it does get watered down.
 

Lowland1

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Mixed Farmer
I certainly wasn't having a pop at you @Lowland1 I understand and respect what you are doing.

However, the person who thinks no further than having exotic fruit out of season...........
That's good thank you. When I came here I questioned the morality of shipping food half the way around the world when the poor Africans are starving then I found out their problems are not really lack of food but lack of money either received for their produce but also those buying don't have enough money to pay a higher price for that food. Last year we grew 7 million cabbages for the local market and about 400 acres of potatoes plus a bit of maize and some onions all in a rotation with our export veg. Where I came into this thread was really to say what people do re. carbon is pointless if the finished product is then packaged and moved all around the country or in our case the world.
 

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