Clipex Fencing

[foobar]

Can you fit the clipex insulators in front of stock netting? (i.e. can you fit two wires through one clipex slot)
Reason for asking is I have stock netting on clipex for my sheep fields, but occasionally I want to put in pigs so it would be handy if I didn't have to set up the electric on second set of posts.

 

[jd6110]

As my sh!t timber posts break at ground level on single row electric fence can I replace wit clipex james? How much each are they? Tia

 

[james ds]

As my sh!t timber posts break at ground level on single row electric fence can I replace wit clipex james? How much each are they? Tia

Yes no problem they have a 5 ft post with2 or 4 clips for this job . I don't know the sterling price , give Mcveigh Parker a call .

 

[tepapa]

Question for the clipex men.
When starting off from a clipex strainer and the land falls away immediately, how do you
A) keep the wire/net up on the strainer without it sliding down. (I know they have little lumps to hold the barb up but do you trust them and how do you hold the net)
B) how do you strut the strainer, as the clipex system is designed to work on flat ground not slopes that are falling away from the strainer.

 

[Y Fan Wen]

A) The strut entering the post will anchor one of the horizontals.
B) How do you strut a timber post in that situation? If there is no ground to work with then I don't see how you are going to do it. This is not a rhetorical question. Some of the fencing I have done has required a body harness and ropes in order to work.

 

[tepapa]

A) The strut entering the post will anchor one of the horizontals.
B) How do you strut a timber post in that situation? If there is no ground to work with then I don't see how you are going to do it. This is not a rhetorical question. Some of the fencing I have done has required a body harness and ropes in order to work.

A) Good point, the strut will hold half the nett.
B) With wood I would use a variation of a box/turkey perch or a jack stay but this is possible as heights can be altered and different size timber posts are available. With Clipex I would have to reinvent the brace system. So curious how others have managed to solve the problem.

 

[james ds]

A) Good point, the strut will hold half the nett.
B) With wood I would use a variation of a box/turkey perch or a jack stay but this is possible as heights can be altered and different size timber posts are available. With Clipex I would have to reinvent the brace system. So curious how others have managed to solve the problem.

I never have a problem like what you describe , it doesn't matter to the stay if the ground is lower at the bottom of the stay , we've fenced up and down over hills with no problem .

 

[Blue.]

Clipex standard posts,quoted yesterday £5.10,they are getting a bit dear for my liking.

 

[Y Fan Wen]

Clipex standard posts,quoted yesterday £5.10,they are getting a bit dear for my liking.

I suppose that is the effect of the pound/Adollar ratio.

 

[tepapa]

I've used clipex before on a plain wire fence but had another go with netting this week and to say I'm disappointed Is an understatement.
I priced the job with both clipex and creosoted materials and clipex was way more expensive but I estimated reduced labour/quicker/easier installation and clipex came in cheaper.
Problems I have are that I would only use clipex on the tricky and hard to reach ground but as far as I can see unless you using clipex on flat, straight east going ground its awful to erect.

The fence had two steep banks down either side and a nice flat run on top.
When pulling the netting down the banks there is nothing to hold the wire at the correct position on the straining posts and all the wires slip down.
The strutting system is also designed to work on flat ground and doesn't have any variation for varying terrain.
One off the gripples ate the gpak wire collapsing the strainer assembly, moving the strainer and undoing all the work. I hate gripples at the best of times, which doesn't help when another fails!!! but is designed as part of the product.
I pulled one line over a hump so the netting was crumpled as it was pulling itself down to the ground. Had I been using wooden posts I would have used one to hold the netting up over the hump but since you need the netting up before the posts with clipex without everything clipping together, its a bloody problem. Trying to get posts in straight line after is near impossible
Due to cost the client opted for eco posts over standard to use standard (cheaper) netting, but standard netting doesn't fit eco posts like your led to believe.
The eco posts are a design failure in themselves. No clip for a ground wire and a massive gap at the top forcing you to use two top wires, they'd be very difficult to use to repair local fences using these spacing's.
You cant pull netting around beefy posts if using them as slight strainers, as the clips catch, and you cant use a sleeve over them if their strutted. There's also no way of holding netting down if you use a strainer in a dip and turn situation which is why I used beefys.

I will use clipex again but I will need to either do some adaptions or only use it on good flat land, which is a shame as there is massive potential for its use in difficult and tricky terrain.

Oh and don't get me started on Mcveighs new design of strainer post, the original version weren't great but these are a big step backwards but ill put that to them direct.

 

[Y Fan Wen]

I've used ones with the thrust plates bolted on and ones with welded on plates. Have they altered it again?

 

[james ds]

I've used clipex before on a plain wire fence but had another go with netting this week and to say I'm disappointed Is an understatement.
I priced the job with both clipex and creosoted materials and clipex was way more expensive but I estimated reduced labour/quicker/easier installation and clipex came in cheaper.
Problems I have are that I would only use clipex on the tricky and hard to reach ground but as far as I can see unless you using clipex on flat, straight east going ground its awful to erect.

The fence had two steep banks down either side and a nice flat run on top.
When pulling the netting down the banks there is nothing to hold the wire at the correct position on the straining posts and all the wires slip down.
The strutting system is also designed to work on flat ground and doesn't have any variation for varying terrain.
One off the gripples ate the gpak wire collapsing the strainer assembly, moving the strainer and undoing all the work. I hate gripples at the best of times, which doesn't help when another fails!!! but is designed as part of the product.
I pulled one line over a hump so the netting was crumpled as it was pulling itself down to the ground. Had I been using wooden posts I would have used one to hold the netting up over the hump but since you need the netting up before the posts with clipex without everything clipping together, its a bloody problem. Trying to get posts in straight line after is near impossible
Due to cost the client opted for eco posts over standard to use standard (cheaper) netting, but standard netting doesn't fit eco posts like your led to believe.
The eco posts are a design failure in themselves. No clip for a ground wire and a massive gap at the top forcing you to use two top wires, they'd be very difficult to use to repair local fences using these spacing's.
You cant pull netting around beefy posts if using them as slight strainers, as the clips catch, and you cant use a sleeve over them if their strutted. There's also no way of holding netting down if you use a strainer in a dip and turn situation which is why I used beefys.

I will use clipex again but I will need to either do some adaptions or only use it on good flat land, which is a shame as there is massive potential for its use in difficult and tricky terrain.

Oh and don't get me started on Mcveighs new design of strainer post, the original version weren't great but these are a big step backwards but ill put that to them direct.

There is a bit of experience needed to put Clipex up correctly on rough ground , but I've erected 100s of kilometres of it and have never failed. However I never use the Eco post and I never use cheap wire , I also make my own strainers which are better than the Clipex version and so can work on uneven ground , the wire can't slide down the end post when it's tied around the propped post the prop holds it in place , we pull around beefy posts with a plastic sleeve over the beefy post , the wire slides around the post and then when tight pull the sleeve out after .

 

[tepapa]

I've used ones with the thrust plates bolted on and ones with welded on plates. Have they altered it again?

Not sure but i'm not keen on the new welded ones. Couple of reasons. If digging in hard ground you could always cut a bit off the bottom of the bolted strainers and lift the plate up a hole but cant with the welded ones. Also they don't have the dimples welded at the top to hold the barb height. They have drilled two small holes through but I'm not sure how they expect you use them to fix the wire. They are also not capped, the old ones had welded metal caps, so they will readily fill with water in the winter and depending on the land, drainage and weather, after repeated hard frosts the strainers are going to expand and split. There is no drainage hole below the strut fixing hole except the hole in the bottom. They've also removed a hole from near the top of top strainer which was handy to adjust the strut height if strutting up a bank.
Over all they need to be drilling a whole load more holes in different places, even if just to allow water to escape and use some sort of cap, even plastic to stop the worst of the water getting in.

 

[tepapa]

There is a bit of experience needed to put Clipex up correctly on rough ground , but I've erected 100s of kilometres of it and have never failed. However I never use the Eco post and I never use cheap wire , I also make my own strainers which are better than the Clipex version and so can work on uneven ground , the wire can't slide down the end post when it's tied around the propped post the prop holds it in place , we pull around beefy posts with a plastic sleeve over the beefy post , the wire slides around the post and then when tight pull the sleeve out after .

Sounds like you've found out the hard way your self.
The strainers need some sort of ribbing to hold the all wires at the correct spacing's or at least more than just relying on the one above or below the strut. Also sounds like i need a sleeve with a cut out back to accommodate the beefy strut attachment. Drain pipe? I had used the knocking sleeve but this wont fit with the strut attached.
I do think if your going to use it standard posts are the way forward even if you have to bite the bullet and buy xfence to fit.

 

[james ds]

I've used clipex before on a plain wire fence but had another go with netting this week and to say I'm disappointed Is an understatement.
I priced the job with both clipex and creosoted materials and clipex was way more expensive but I estimated reduced labour/quicker/easier installation and clipex came in cheaper.
Problems I have are that I would only use clipex on the tricky and hard to reach ground but as far as I can see unless you using clipex on flat, straight east going ground its awful to erect.

The fence had two steep banks down either side and a nice flat run on top.
When pulling the netting down the banks there is nothing to hold the wire at the correct position on the straining posts and all the wires slip down.
The strutting system is also designed to work on flat ground and doesn't have any variation for varying terrain.
One off the gripples ate the gpak wire collapsing the strainer assembly, moving the strainer and undoing all the work. I hate gripples at the best of times, which doesn't help when another fails!!! but is designed as part of the product.
I pulled one line over a hump so the netting was crumpled as it was pulling itself down to the ground. Had I been using wooden posts I would have used one to hold the netting up over the hump but since you need the netting up before the posts with clipex without everything clipping together, its a bloody problem. Trying to get posts in straight line after is near impossible
Due to cost the client opted for eco posts over standard to use standard (cheaper) netting, but standard netting doesn't fit eco posts like your led to believe.
The eco posts are a design failure in themselves. No clip for a ground wire and a massive gap at the top forcing you to use two top wires, they'd be very difficult to use to repair local fences using these spacing's.
You cant pull netting around beefy posts if using them as slight strainers, as the clips catch, and you cant use a sleeve over them if their strutted. There's also no way of holding netting down if you use a strainer in a dip and turn situation which is why I used beefys.

I will use clipex again but I will need to either do some adaptions or only use it on good flat land, which is a shame as there is massive potential for its use in difficult and tricky terrain.

Oh and don't get me started on Mcveighs new design of strainer post, the original version weren't great but these are a big step backwards but ill put that to them direct.

Here is a picture of a clipex fence downhill around during a curve .

 

[tepapa]

That's flat and straight compared to the type of ground I'm talking about

 

[james ds]

Sounds like you've found out the hard way your self.
The strainers need some sort of ribbing to hold the all wires at the correct spacing's or at least more than just relying on the one above or below the strut. Also sounds like i need a sleeve with a cut out back to accommodate the beefy strut attachment. Drain pipe? I had used the knocking sleeve but this wont fit with the strut attached.
I do think if your going to use it standard posts are the way forward even if you have to bite the bullet and buy xfence to fit.

I don't use any wire except Xfence , it's the best wire on the market , you can use cheaper wire that fits perfect but it's not as strong , I tried a top brand of wire that a member here claimed was better than Xfence so I bought a few rolls and it's not a patch on Xfence , a lot easier to cut with the snips any , what does that say.

 

[james ds]

That's flat and straight compared to the type of ground I'm talking about

You should see the other side of it , a tractor would not drive up it .

 

[james ds]

Sounds like you've found out the hard way your self.
The strainers need some sort of ribbing to hold the all wires at the correct spacing's or at least more than just relying on the one above or below the strut. Also sounds like i need a sleeve with a cut out back to accommodate the beefy strut attachment. Drain pipe? I had used the knocking sleeve but this wont fit with the strut attached.
I do think if your going to use it standard posts are the way forward even if you have to bite the bullet and buy xfence to fit.

Xfence never slips on the end post , it must be very soft wire your using to buckle down or slip when there's a stay through it .

 

[tepapa]

Xfence never slips on the end post , it must be very soft wire your using to buckle down or slip when there's a stay through it .

Or a very steep fall off the strainer down a bank.