Clover failure

[Barmyfarmer]

Seeded a field with a irg, crimson clover mix early may, it germinated brilliantly, the clover especially, conditions have been perfect, but it now appears that the clover part of the mix has died/withered away and pretty much disappeared.
Any ideas what could of happened?

 

[bobk]

Seeded a field with a irg, crimson clover mix early may, it germinated brilliantly, the clover especially, conditions have been perfect, but it now appears that the clover part of the mix has died/withered away and pretty much disappeared.
Any ideas what could of happened?

Previous crop

 

[Barmyfarmer]

Previous crop

Barley undersowed with westerwolds wholecropped and then outwintered store cattle until January, round upped couple of weeks prior to cultivation

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Seeded a field with a irg, crimson clover mix early may, it germinated brilliantly, the clover especially, conditions have been perfect, but it now appears that the clover part of the mix has died/withered away and pretty much disappeared.
Any ideas what could of happened?

You say Clover mix ?
How thick is the grass , Clover don't like competion early on , i put crimson with brasicas somtimes, but brasicas will take it out if to thick , also what's the spray history , Clover won't come if Hurler been used in the last 12 month for instance

Did you byvany chance mix 24D with the roundup or used it , that has a big effect on Clover germination, or could take it out once germinated , I've learn that to my cost , or as someone put it , you should read the label

 

[neilo]

Seeded a field with a irg, crimson clover mix early may, it germinated brilliantly, the clover especially, conditions have been perfect, but it now appears that the clover part of the mix has died/withered away and pretty much disappeared.
Any ideas what could of happened?

I put a couple of fields of a similar mix in 2 years ago. One field came well, the other had pretty much all the Crimson clover taken out by slugs, despite the liberal application of slug pellets, several times. I broadcast some Redstart rape over it to try to give a bit more bulk, and the slugs didn't touch that for some reason, just the clover. I had DD'ed Redstart on 10ac just over the hedge as well, which was also untouched by slugs.

 

[Kevtherev]

Any slugs about?

 

[Barmyfarmer]

You say Clover mix ?
How thick is the grass , Clover don't like competion early on , i put crimson with brasicas somtimes, but brasicas will take it out if to thick , also what's the spray history , Clover won't come if Hurler been used in the last 12 month for instance

Definitely isn't any competition, no hurler been used either, it came really well but just disappeared now

 

[Barmyfarmer]

Any slugs about?
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Had never considered slugs, only broad cast on rather than drilled so didn't think they would bother, haven't seen much slug activity but then haven't been looking either

 

[T C]

pH level?

 

[Barmyfarmer]

pH level?

Was 6.3 couple of years ago and had some prilled stuff last year, if it was lime would it have germinated though?

 

[steveR]

Slugs or as I have seen here twice in these droughty Springs, germination then the seedlings just run out of moisture and shrivel and die!

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Was 6.3 couple of years ago and had some prilled stuff last year, if it was lime would it have germinated though?

Was 6.3 couple of years ago and had some prilled stuff last year, if it was lime would it have germinated though?

What's the ground like , has it been water logged at all

 

[Kevtherev]

Slugs or as I have seen here twice in these droughty Springs, germination then the seedlings just run out of moisture and shrivel and die!

This ^

 

[ploughman1963]

We have clover struggling - germinated ok but then stalled- pretty sure its just short of moisture at the wrong time.

 

[serf]

We have clover struggling - germinated ok but then stalled- pretty sure its just short of moisture at the wrong time.

This rain may wake some seed up that was lying dormant , if have had any !

Certainly set it up here that has been in for a month waiting for it !

 

[steveR]

We have clover struggling - germinated ok but then stalled- pretty sure its just short of moisture at the wrong time.

We are still short of moisture at any time...

Soil Moisture Defecit still around 5-6"...

 

[steveR]

This rain may wake some seed up that was lying dormant , if have had any !

Certainly set it up here that has been in for a month waiting for it !

 

[Barmyfarmer]

This was the field 12 days ago after it had been drilled 10 days and it's probably had 50mm of rain since

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Can only be one of two things imo, chemical residual or slugs

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Clover Overseed coming through , one I sprayed last year has nothing