- Location
- Ceredigion
Clover Seeding
Has anyone used one of these for overseeding clover
Thanks for any help
Has anyone used one of these for overseeding clover
Thanks for any help
Clover Seeding
- Thread starter Derrick Hughes
- Start date
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
Not a Stocks, but I have used a Bullock Tillage/DeLimbe one several times (better & cheaper
). Best success was running over after baling silage, then bang a big mob of sheep on to tread in for soil contact, all before a weekend of thunderstorms. A job to get all those factors lined up, and I suspect the sheep and thunderstorms were the most important bits. It doesn't really matter how you spread the seed, chucking it in the spreader with fertiliser (preferably not N) works just as well IME.
JD-Kid
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- Location
- Akaroa.. New Zealand
know a cropping guy spreading clover with one like that worked ok from what he said
in Aussie just mixed it with fert and spread
have a tow and fert spreader here have added clover in a few brews. a wetter year would work better
in Aussie just mixed it with fert and spread
have a tow and fert spreader here have added clover in a few brews. a wetter year would work better
- Location
- Ceredigion
No problem with wet here . Do you inoculate the seed or tried it
no need to inoculate ordinary clover in this country as there will be necessary 'bugs' in the soil, after all wild white is almost everywhere
Yes, did it a few years ago from quad bike with mixed results.
Doesn't like windy conditions, was a bugger to calibrate, need to be really careful not to allow ANY grass/string/dirt in the hopper or it blocks. It does work though.
Have now moved onto air seeder on a grass rake, but am considering changing it over to the 6m slitter which I use more often
Doesn't like windy conditions, was a bugger to calibrate, need to be really careful not to allow ANY grass/string/dirt in the hopper or it blocks. It does work though.
Have now moved onto air seeder on a grass rake, but am considering changing it over to the 6m slitter which I use more often
- Location
- Ceredigion
I'm listening for once [emoji3]no need to inoculate ordinary clover in this country as there will be necessary 'bugs' in the soil, after all wild white is almost everywhere
- Location
- Ceredigion
Right I've had a sit back and thoughtno need to inoculate ordinary clover in this country as there will be necessary 'bugs' in the soil, after all wild white is almost everywhere
The reason for overseeding clover is the lack of it. There for there is a reason for lack of it. You are right in the fact that if there is plenty of clover there then the right bacteria will be there. But not necessarily so if we have a lack of clover , the main thing of course is to have the PH over 7
I have no idea at this point what inoculation costs though
- Location
- Cornwall.
Here is a guide to the cost of mycorrhizal fungi https://smart.plantworksuk.co.uk/product/sr2/
I'm still not convinced of it's worth. A customer has had almost 1400 acres of grass seed from me in the last 5 years treated and this year has decided against it. A period of 5 years and with that number of acres is a very good trial I would have thought.
Oh, ploughing will kill any (almost all) added mycorrhizal fungi so you can quickly be back at square one!
I'm still not convinced of it's worth. A customer has had almost 1400 acres of grass seed from me in the last 5 years treated and this year has decided against it. A period of 5 years and with that number of acres is a very good trial I would have thought.
Oh, ploughing will kill any (almost all) added mycorrhizal fungi so you can quickly be back at square one!
- Location
- Ceredigion
Would that be clover inoculant. ?
Rhizobia are some of the best-studied plant microbiota. These oligotrophic Alphaproteobacteria or Betaproteobacteria form symbioses with their legume hosts. Rhizobia must exist in soil and compete with other members of the microbiota before infecting legumes and forming N2-fixing bacteroids. These dramatic lifestyle and developmental changes are underpinned by large genomes and even more complex pan-genomes, which encompass the whole population and are subject to rapid genetic exchange. The ability to respond to plant signals and chemoattractants and to colonize nutrient-rich roots are crucial for the competitive success of these bacteria. The availability of a large body of genomic, physiological, biochemical and ecological studies makes rhizobia unique models for investigating community interactions and plant colonization.
- Location
- Cornwall.
No.
I wasn't sure if we were talking about mycorrhizal fungi treated seed or seed coated with a nutrient/fertiliser seed dressing (you wouldn't use an inoculant).
Treated seed reduces the number of clover seeds per kilo and I have found some treatments when getting damp/wet it justs balls up and clogs everything up.
- Location
- Ceredigion
I was going to try putting it on myself in a cement mixer
- Location
- Ceredigion
yes or lay out a nice clean sheet or part of silage sheet on the floor then use aplastic shovel or your hands to mix inoculant in with the seed, thats how ive done it before.
- Location
- Ceredigion
Cost is about 30p kg to treat clover [emoji256] so is it not worth putting on anyway?no need to inoculate ordinary clover in this country as there will be necessary 'bugs' in the soil, after all wild white is almost everywhere
the only time ive done it Derek, is on haifa clover in another country, and Lucerne here (because we had never grown it at all and its a different type of Rhizobium than WC )
Trouble is with the lucerne , i mixed the inoculant onto the seed in September but couldn't get the seed sown until June of the followin g year at which time the innoculant was most likely not viable.
I upped the seed rate and sowed it anyway and it did very well regardless.
Thats it in my Avatar.
- Location
- Ceredigion
It does say needs sowing in 24 hours so I would have to mix it on the day
- Location
- Cornwall.
I'm at a loss here but why would anyone want to inoculate clover seed being sown in the UK? 