Combi drilling close behind plough autumn 2019?

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
I haven't bought any seed or spray yet either, other than the OSR. Actually redrilled some OSR on a bald patch of 3 or 4 acres this morning. Direct drilled into sprayed off grassland. Not hopeful but it will be interesting to see what happens. Sticky, but the grass keeps things clean.
 

jh.

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Location
fife
Its actually easier to post pictures now. Click on box between chain and smiley face and do it from there. I couldn't do it either till someone showed me.

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mo!

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Mixed Farmer
Location
York
Put up some pictures then?

So we can all see how bad it is.
If its owt like our heavy land you wont get any pictures as there's no point in even going for a look for a week. I've sworn I'll never plough our really tough stuff again after I gave it 5 passes with a press to try to get a seedbed. This year it has rape which is too wet for slugs to bother.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
when it’s too wet it’s too dry

and you pass that same breed for the seventh time hoping the pebbles will magically appear as tilth out the back of the packer roller ....

I have come to the conclusion that the only way of dealing with it is to leave it to weather. Plough too early and it slumps before spring. Plough too late and it dries out and sets like concrete. Plough at the right time and it gets just enough frost, rain and drying to produce a tilth in one pass. Timing and weather is everything. Ploughed straight behind the combine, if it not too hard, and it will generally be well enough weathered by October. Plough in January or February if its dry enough and it will usually catch a few frosts to work down in early March. I have direct drilled it in late september and got away with it but not this year.

We have tried to force it. Of course we have. But it rarely ends well. No tilth, just cannon balls and you can see the ground flexing round the tractor tyres.
 

jh.

Member
Location
fife
I have come to the conclusion that the only way of dealing with it is to leave it to weather. Plough too early and it slumps before spring. Plough too late and it dries out and sets like concrete. Plough at the right time and it gets just enough frost, rain and drying to produce a tilth in one pass. Timing and weather is everything. Ploughed straight behind the combine, if it not too hard, and it will generally be well enough weathered by October. Plough in January or February if its dry enough and it will usually catch a few frosts to work down in early March. I have direct drilled it in late september and got away with it but not this year.

We have tried to force it. Of course we have. But it rarely ends well. No tilth, just cannon balls and you can see the ground flexing round the tractor tyres.
All down to timings .

Really not sure how the future will go as I do think we will all be forced away from the plough in coming years . Like the 3 crop rule , I think we will be limited to how much ploughing we are allowed to do , plus with fuel going up all the time , do we really want to be ploughing up this stink .

Just not convinced a novag , Deere or any other sort of no till drill would ever work in that , in Scotland. Maybe the future is grass it down for an AD plant
 

rob h

Member
Location
east yorkshire
Haven't been able to cultivate any thing for nearly 3 weeks now.even stopped hedge cutting in fields last week as it was making a mess.so been getting a track Marshall ready for when it dries up
 

Bob lincs

Member
Arable Farmer
So how is it switched on and off, all driver input guessing the delay due to length of piping?
Artimis seed on/off is triggered by an electric switch . We use a reed switch and magnet arrangement , the switch is fixed and the magnet is on a tiny Hyd ram 3” long . This ram function is part of the headland management program (itec) and is timed ( after a bit of trial and error ) so as the coulters hit the ground the seed comes out and as soon as the coulters leave the ground the seed stops .
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Lincsman

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Artimis seed on/off is triggered by an electric switch . We use a reed switch and magnet arrangement , the switch is fixed and the magnet is on a tiny Hyd ram 3” long . This ram function is part of the headland management program (itec) and is timed ( after a bit of trial and error ) so as the coulters hit the ground the seed comes out and as soon as the coulters leave the ground the seed stops .View attachment 837696
Very neat.
 

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