Combinables Price Tracker

[teslacoils]

Out of interest do any of you that follow this thread/sticky have broiler production/ pig enterprises that are viable or unviable, depending on the price of cereals.
It’s difficult to be on both sides of the fence in business..

In a way. But the flip side is that how many of them were making big money while we were loosing it when wheat was £60/t? Having a loss making year is not unique to one sector of farming.

 

[Renaultman]

In a way. But the flip side is that how many of them were making big money while we were loosing it when wheat was £60/t? Having a loss making year is not unique to one sector of farming.

Absolutely and pigs and poultry are historically cyclic but this is pretty much your perfect storm

 

[lloyd]

In a way. But the flip side is that how many of them were making big money while we were loosing it when wheat was £60/t? Having a loss making year is not unique to one sector of farming.

And a government accepting a neonics ban with flawed evidence regarding O.S.R.
And to put two fingers up at UK agriculture while they are happy to import rape from
the very country where evidence was gathered even though that country still uses neonics.

 

[SilliamWhale]

if netflix subscription went up a couple £’s per month i doubt it would make the news or cause panic

but those pesky farmers asking to at least cover costs ? ………. how dare they !

I suppose cumulatively it is going to have an effect though.

But its unrealistic to think farmers can always cover the costs - they can't!

 

[teslacoils]

And a government accepting a neonics ban with flawed evidence regarding O.S.R.

Yup. Pretty much wiped out our one profitable break crop option. Three years I've tried getting osr to grow and each time it's made a decent second wheat....after writing off four or five grand of seed costs.

 

[teslacoils]

Absolutely and pigs and poultry are historically cyclic but this is pretty much your perfect storm

Yes, it's risen too quickly. But it's pretty realistic to say that food prices as a whole will finally rise so we can make a decent living given the risk and expenses.

 

[Fubar]

Out of interest do any of you that follow this thread/sticky have broiler production/ pig enterprises that are viable or unviable, depending on the price of cereals.
It’s difficult to be on both sides of the fence in business..

Normally feed some of my cereals to my bull beef enterprise. Done the sums at the weekend and unless the fat price lifts by at least 30 p per kg then it doesn't pay to feed them. And that was pricing the cereals at £300 let alone the £330 wheat is currently worth. So the cattle are going down the road as stores. Let someone else take the gamble. Maybe they've got some cheaper feedstuff.

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

Normally feed some of my cereals to my bull beef enterprise. Done the sums at the weekend and unless the fat price lifts by at least 30 p per kg then it doesn't pay to feed them. And that was pricing the cereals at £300 let alone the £330 wheat is currently worth. So the cattle are going down the road as stores. Let someone else take the gamble. Maybe they've got some cheaper feedstuff.

Clearly beef is too cheap then

 

[Fubar]

Many beef finishers tend to value their home grown cereals as cop which would make feeding it viable. I value my cereals at what I can sell them for. Take the easiest profit without the risks associated with livestock.
Although I will miss the fym.

 

[balerman]

Many beef finishers tend to value their home grown cereals as cop which would make feeding it viable. I value my cereals at what I can sell them for. Take the easiest profit without the risks associated with livestock.
Although I will miss the fym.

Yes something will have to give this autumn,cattle store sales will be dire if beef doesn’t get to near £6/kilo or cereals drop to below £200.

 

[Fubar]

Yes something will have to give this autumn,cattle store sales will be dire if beef doesn’t get to near £6/kilo or cereals drop to below £200.

Well store sales will be dire then because I don't see either of those things happening. It's definitely up corn down horn at the moment.

 

[bobk]

Big gains predicted this morning

Ukraine war: Global wheat prices jump after India export ban

World wheat prices have soared this year, pushing up the cost of everything from bread to noodles.

www.bbc.co.uk

Bloody stuff will be unsellable soon

 

[DrWazzock]

Waitrose promoting 3 chickens for £10 at the weekend.
So how much of a bloodbath in the livestock sector will it take to have an impact on high grain prices and how soon will it happen?
Do the supermarkets really believe they can actually influence global feed grain prices by holding meat prices down?
And if supplies of home produced meat dry up, where do they expect to obtain cheap imports from in a global market subject to same high feed grain prices?
My local feed mill man was saying barley was too expensive to feed about 3 months ago.
Sooner or later there’s going to be a crunch somewhere.

 

[teslacoils]

Supermarkets should be banned from selling milk, meat, veg, flour at below cop.

 

[Mixedupfarmer]

Waitrose promoting 3 chickens for £10 at the weekend.
So how much of a bloodbath in the livestock sector will it take to have an impact on high grain prices and how soon will it happen?
Do the supermarkets really believe they can actually influence global feed grain prices by holding meat prices down?
And if supplies of home produced meat dry up, where do they expect to obtain cheap imports from in a global market subject to same high feed grain prices?
My local feed mill man was saying barley was too expensive to feed about 3 months ago.
Sooner or later there’s going to be a crunch somewhere.

Europe will subsidise pigs and poultry production to help them cover grain prices, and we will import more from them, or prices will have to rise

 

[DrWazzock]

If the supermarkets don’t raise meat prices then they’ll kill home production and take affordable meat away from the poor abroad.
Wonder how that squares with their ethical code?

 

[teslacoils]

Where's the grocery adjudicator when you need one? Should be appointed by farmers.

 

[Nitrams]

Where's the grocery adjudicator when you need one? Should be appointed by farmers.

Probably at a drinks party in number 10 along with supermarket ceo's and other such influencial peers

 

[4course]

phone just pipped ,chicago up a lot ( about £17 in overnight out of market hrs trades BBC news finally started reporting on the surge in commodity prices world wide

 

[teslacoils]

Probably at a drinks party in number 10 along with supermarket ceo's and other such influencial peers

Been a shoe-in role since the day it was begun.