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Purli R

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Not wanting to read five pages of posts, so you rang the auctioneers and told them he was not fit for purpose after what period of time?
Bull landed midnight sat. Vendor told sun lunchtime the bull in itself was ok, but was quite obviously not right in head,but we thought journey might of upset him,so was not throwing it up or owt for a few days. Rang H&H mon as it was fairly obvious to any half arsed peasant it want right,it was left with all parties we would give it more time(not specified) talked with vendor every day as TBH he just couldn"t leave it.Really threw it up later that week,got our Vet in,& took videos of it.
 

muleman

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cant beat a quiet bull, got this one in feb at Carlisle. Out in the field with 30 cows and he comes up every day and has a bite of cake out of the bag, should help him to hold his condition hopefully!
 

Purli R

Member
The vendor has video proof of it walking out quite happy on Facebook , how’s he to know that it was going to turn or maybe someone took cold feet after paying for it as so many farmers do these days then try to wriggle out.
We also have video proof of it being a pr*ck in it pen rorting head thru under over gate & it lasts for quite a while,not just a few seconds like you seen.
 
That was a serious financial loss actually thats a serious fecking loss to claw back. What was the bull worth dead? So a loss close to £4k? Christ almighty better get selling on ebay. Glad our spends on a angus bull is £3k max. I want to go to the farm and see it and after purchase we are still chatting to the seller after it. Feel for you.
 

puntabrava

Member
Location
Wiltshire
Bull landed midnight sat. Vendor told sun lunchtime the bull in itself was ok, but was quite obviously not right in head,but we thought journey might of upset him,so was not throwing it up or owt for a few days. Rang H&H mon as it was fairly obvious to any half arsed peasant it want right,it was left with all parties we would give it more time(not specified) talked with vendor every day as TBH he just couldn"t leave it.Really threw it up later that week,got our Vet in,& took videos of it.
You are saying HH have not and are not going to seek financial redress for you?
I had this with Kivells ten years ago, these auctioneers don’t seem to want to rock the boat,
I would be emailing the auctioneers with the kill invoice and your invoice for the difference and put a payment by date and interest charge terms and you advise them non payment will result in a court claims procedure being instigated.
 
@Purli R paid gd money for the bull, I’m sure the decision to cull him was made for all the right reasons, plenty would have hung on only because of his price. Something flipped the bull, he has a trait/streak in him that was unlocked and that risk could carry through to his progeny - Bare in mind he is the new stock bull for a pedigree herd, not a crossing bull. The issue here is warranty, not should the buyer stick the bull out with a few cows to calm him down, easy for us to say but I’d accept Purlis decision was the right one, that despite costing £5k plus, he didn’t want a dangerous animal on the farm nor in his breeding. Good man, stay safe and best of luck, if I’m ever in the market for a ped BB bull then I’ll look you up.
 

Top Tip.

Member
Location
highland
You are saying HH have not and are not going to seek financial redress for you?
I had this with Kivells ten years ago, these auctioneers don’t seem to want to rock the boat,
I would be emailing the auctioneers with the kill invoice and your invoice for the difference and put a payment by date and interest charge terms and you advise them non payment will result in a court claims procedure being instigated.
Is that going down the sale of goods route and saying he is not fit for purpose? Which if you can’t let him out of the pen would be true.
 
I bought a Hereford bull off a dealer a couple of years ago, delivered to me, sight unseen. he was a very angry young man when he arrived, up against the barrier telling me he was the boss, roaring at anything that moved. after about a month in the pen with me feeding him, he'd calmed down a bit, and I chucked him out with the cows, bit flighty but ok. anyway fast forward 2 years, this bull has turned into an absolute sweetie, loves a pet, behind a gate obviously. he's either learned to love me or is playing the long game in his plan to kill me
 
Location
southwest
I bought a Hereford bull off a dealer a couple of years ago, delivered to me, sight unseen. he was a very angry young man when he arrived, up against the barrier telling me he was the boss, roaring at anything that moved. after about a month in the pen with me feeding him, he'd calmed down a bit, and I chucked him out with the cows, bit flighty but ok. anyway fast forward 2 years, this bull has turned into an absolute sweetie, loves a pet, behind a gate obviously. he's either learned to love me or is playing the long game in his plan to kill me

Good job you took more than 36 hours to make a decision.
 

abitdaft

Member
Location
Scotland
Personally I think go with your gut instinct, I think that anyone that knows beasts can pick up on bluster/lonely/bored can tell the difference between that and the loopy bugger that is either aggressive or not wired right. Animals do pretty much everything based on instinct and yet we question ours when it comes to dealing with them.
 

Ysgythan

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Ammanford
If you looked at Facebook after the online sheep sale with H&H you saw a few “still for sale due to time wasters” statuses. Basically the hammer doesn’t fall until after delivery so if you got it off the box and thought “bugger me that’s sh!t compared to the video” you can send them straight back.
 

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