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Companion cropping OSR

Discussion in 'Direct Drilling Crops & Agronomy' started by Adams1978, Aug 9, 2018.

  1. Adams1978

    Adams1978 New Member

    Looking at doing companion cropping with our OSR this year and was after some pointers on seed rates, seed mixes, and potential issues.

    We are using Sim Tech T Sem pneumatic drill

    Was looking at buckwheat and vetch with maybe some clover, wondered what seed rate people had tried with these and thoughts of just mixing it all together and drilling? Are people using any other companion species?

    I assume the buckwheat will die in the cold weather and the vetch and clover will need controlling at some point?
     
  2. Adeptandy

    Adeptandy Member

    Location:
    PE15
    Tried Clearfield OSR and a mustard mix, worked well and did 2t/a
    Mustard went on at 5kg/ha broadcast on top after drilling the OSR and before the OSR was rolled in :)

    This was after 2-3 years of failed OSR due to CSFB
     
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  3. juke

    juke Member

    Location:
    DURHAM
    Berssem clover and buckwheat should die of with first frosts , vetch will go with astrokerb/kerb application, be careful with your early season volunteer cereal herbicide as it may take out the companions too, we used fussilade last year and it was safe enough on buckwheat and vetch.
    Our rate was 8 kg buckwheat 15 kg vetch to the ha.
    Can't comment on lumping it all In one hopper we blew the companions of the back of the main. Drill
     
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  4. Adams1978

    Adams1978 New Member

    Is there any issue taking the mustered out as it is a brassica?
     
  5. Adams1978

    Adams1978 New Member

    Was thinking that it might be easier to broadcast on the field then rake in, then drill the OSR in to it.
    Are you using something like a opico variocast and putting the seed down the pipe or broadcasting it?
     
  6. Adams1978

    Adams1978 New Member

    Just noticed you said Clearfield
     
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  7. juke

    juke Member

    Location:
    DURHAM
    We have a turbo wizard that's mounted onto the claydon, we have the splash plates angled down into the following harrow just to try n get some soil over it, n then rolled .. osr goes in the claydon
     
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  8. flip0207

    flip0207 New Member

    Location:
    Germany
    This year will be our first year of companion cropping OSR. We're mixing 2,5 kg/ha buckwheat, 10 kg/ha vetch and 3 kg/ha white clover. Hopefully vetches and buckwheat will be frostkilled. White clover will cover the soil after OSR harvest next year. Any comments on the seed rates?
     
  9. martian

    martian DD Moderator

    Location:
    N Herts
    Think I'd up the buckwheat a bit. Vetch won't necessarily be frost killed, but you can harvest it with the rape and sieve out the seeds easily enough. We got two or three tonnes of vetch seed out of our rapeseed this year, makes cover cropping much cheaper with free seed....
     
  10. JD6920s

    JD6920s Member

    Location:
    Shropshire
    How has the companion cropping gone with the spring oats this time, have you harvested them yet?
     
  11. juke

    juke Member

    Location:
    DURHAM
    Think the spring oats will be combined in about 2 to 3 weeks time. ( round about normal) the clover struggled a bit this time we drilled the oats plus companion in late April it didn't get ain't rain for two weeks after drilling . It did come not to bad at all.
    If we can get 2.5 tons of oats or above this year I think it will be well worth doing.

    In conclusion I think we will up seed rates a bit more next year.

    I will report back once we have final yields unfortunately we have no control to go against . All I can say is our best field of wheat followed last year's effort of oats/ companion. This year we have wheat following oat/ companion . Winter beans and osr so will be good to see this time next year .
     
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  12. JD6920s

    JD6920s Member

    Location:
    Shropshire
    Thanks, we too are waiting for spring oats to be ready, hopefully not too long, but have some green in the straw yet.
    This rain should help a bit if it does come hot again as they have talked about, as don’t want to cut them and have the straw at risk of too much wet, so fingers crossed.
     
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  13. Adams1978

    Adams1978 New Member

    Where is the best place to get companion crops, also is it better to get a dedicated mix or buy individually and mix yourself.
     
  14. juke

    juke Member

    Location:
    DURHAM
    bought straights for osr last time, best clover mix for oats came from @Great In Grass
     
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  15. juke

    juke Member

    Location:
    DURHAM
    @JD6920s it's not perfect but this is how we would like the whole field to look with a companion some bits are better some bits are worse than the photo.. pretty certain we will be continuing this idea again next spring in the effort to improve. Almost certain the following wheat crop gets an establishment benefit from the clover being there
     

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  16. stroller

    stroller Member

    Location:
    Somerset UK
    Are they spring oats? I'd like to try getting a white micro clover established but not sure how to go about it with regard to weed control in the companion crop, or which one to try it with wosr,wheat, spring oats or in with the cover crop.:scratchhead:
     
  17. Michael S

    Michael S Member

    Location:
    Matching Green
    I am going put 8kg/ha of buckwheat in with the rape through a Simtech and broadcast 4kg/ha off the back of the rolls through a Techneat Avadex spreader.

    Am I doing the right thing?

    Michael
     
  18. juke

    juke Member

    Location:
    DURHAM
    Yes they are spring oats after cover crop , clover is broadcast of the back of the drill at a rate of 3 kilos to the acre . Herbicide wise we did use something on some radishes that decided to grow back can't recall if hand what that was . Only grass weed herbicide that we have used is glyphosate to kill the cover crop.
     
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  19. juke

    juke Member

    Location:
    DURHAM
    Buckwheat sounds about about right at8 kgs that's similar to what we did. 16 kilos of vetch to just make sure you get it covered with soil...

    Buckwheat will die with frosts , vetch astrokerb will take it out .. we didn't get any pigeon problems this year till the vetch was dying back and the beast from the East struck..
     
  20. JD6920s

    JD6920s Member

    Location:
    Shropshire
    Have you managed to cut your oats yet?
    We tried last weekend but not quite ready, and the weather has gone a bit pear shaped since so not been back but will be as soon as we get a window.
     

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