Competition/commercial ploughing Cotswold Brash?

Ley253

Member
Location
Bath
Yes, the plough tends to, the competitor will then stand them on end to show the judges in the plot, some cart them to the ends as John has done in the picture. I just leave them, judges arent stupid, they know every trick in the book!! Some ploughmen will carry the odd stone around on the plough and when they have an issue anywhere on the plot, the stone gets put by the offending mistake!! Seen it done a fair bit by a few ploughmen.
You normally tend to hit one on the first/second run or when youre trying to take a single off towards the end!!
If really bad some competitors will simply pack up, as you can cause a fair bit of damage to a plough if you hit a big enough stone.
damage, not only to the plough. Painful to the wallet as well. That episode at sarn did both legs, I think, they are bent anyway.
 

MrNoo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Cirencester
Found a picture of the worst field of Cotswold Brash that we have here for you, ideal for a ploughing match!!
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MrNoo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Cirencester
Ow what does Cotswold brash meen
It is generally a clay/clay loam with a high amount of limestone content, a very thin layer of soil 10cm-15cm over Oolitic limestone. But it does differ markedly field to field, if does have a high clay content, hence why it has the ability to stick to anything when moisture is present, and stick it does!!!
It is low yielding and tends to drought out readily although does drain well when it doesnt have clay under the limestone.
We have a fair bit here, 60% of the farm but we also have thick blue/yellow clays, some nice sandy loam in a couple of places and some black type of soil that is soft and fluffy that wont plough for toffee, just pushes from one side to the other (grows BG like nothing else i have seen too)
The picture is the worst filed, it's not all like that!
Traditionally the whole area was down to grass and had sheep on it
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
15ft, blimey !
......barely 10 to 15 inches of top
Soil here, and even with that being rather nice stuff...... the sheep have always done a more for our farm than a plough ever did.

As for farting around with competition ploughing, who the heck with farm buisness to run and family to help out has time for that caper....:ROFLMAO:

Happy days.
 

Martin Holden

Member
Trade
Location
Cheltenham
Is Cotswold Brash some of the most difficult land you plough ,at competition level or commercially and make a really good job of ploughing.
I ask after attending FFF&
B ploughing competition held at Barrington Estate
yesterday.
The soil looked very puffy to plough, the same as it looked where the ploughing Competition was held a few years ago.
Yesterday a competitor told me “this land is best min tilled”.
Years ago when I did some commercial ploughing,with a Randomes plough with YL bodies they never used to scour very well , ended up
pushing soil to one side more than ploughing.
.Kverneland No8 bodies were better but soil quite often stuck to those mouldboards to.
Any comments welcome.
Just came across this post. cotswold brash is a funny soil and I’ve never seen it plough in a manner that matches normally provide. Dry and it falls over very easily and damp it’s too “fluffy” and will stick to metal like glue. Most is now min filled these days so ploughing isn’t the issue it once was
 

arcobob

Member
Location
Norfolk
One of the finest ploughmen of my era managed a farm to the west of Peterborough. He taught me what little I know but also said that ploughing limestone brash was a waste of time. He could not practice on his home farm to gain any useful knowledge and I am sure he actively avoided the Cotswolds. I have ploughed in the Mendips and though the soil does not stick as badly it is better suited to dry stone walling competitions. :D
 

Ley253

Member
Location
Bath
One of the finest ploughmen of my era managed a farm to the west of Peterborough. He taught me what little I know but also said that ploughing limestone brash was a waste of time. He could not practice on his home farm to gain any useful knowledge and I am sure he actively avoided the Cotswolds. I have ploughed in the Mendips and though the soil does not stick as badly it is better suited to dry stone walling competitions. :D
Wouldnt have been nr Wittering, would it Bob? I well remember the national being held there!
 
15ft, blimey !
......barely 10 to 15 inches of top
Soil here, and even with that being rather nice stuff...... the sheep have always done a more for our farm than a plough ever did.

As for farting around with competition ploughing, who the heck with farm buisness to run and family to help out has time for that caper....:ROFLMAO:

Happy days.
him that made time ........... made plenty of it
 

MrNoo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Cirencester
A very interesting view of Brash when we had some test pits dug pre planning app for something, shows how much topsoil we dont have before the limestone but you can see why it's full of stone. We do have a stone picker which does a great job, the stone being very good for tracks
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