Concentrate Price Tracker

[startinghandle]

On a slightly different note most days I go past a field where there are more ewes without lambs than with and I saw lamb bunting at ewe trying to suck , the farmer thinks he is saving money not buying feed and I am sure he's not the only one
I will mention my late father who was to the other extreme feeding animals

 

[livestock 1]

On a slightly different note most days I go past a field where there are more ewes without lambs than with and I saw lamb bunting at ewe trying to suck , the farmer thinks he is saving money not buying feed and I am sure he's not the only one
I will mention my late father who was to the other extreme feeding animals

We said months ago there was two options and you’ve seen what the second one is

 

[Woolless]

Absolutely. Yes there’s incentives in other places I think. You are right it just doesn’t all appear it takes time and they don’t realise that.
Have you been to London? I’ve only been a few times maybe four times at a guess. When you are there it’s easy to feel like you are in your own little bubble pretty secure and everything is there at hand for you. No thought of where anything comes from or what effort goes into it.

Lots of those folks in London apparently do very important jobs. One example, met a bloke at a party once whose job it was to persuade bankers to work for his bank. He was on £50k/year. Also project managers, many IT posts, the list goes on. Didn't matter one iota when they sat on the house for months on end but they're all 'good jobs'!

 

[livestock 1]

Lots of those folks in London apparently do very important jobs. One example, met a bloke at a party once whose job it was to persuade bankers to work for his bank. He was on £50k/year. Also project managers, many IT posts, the list goes on. Didn't matter one iota when they sat on the house for months on end but they're all 'good jobs'!

That’s where I missed out!!

 

[Woolless]

That’s where I missed out!!

I should have studied law instead of veterinary. Could still have farmed but taken someone on to do the crap. I could have done the supervision, checking and strategy plus occasional appearances to draw lambs etc

 

[Werzle]

I spoke to a feed rep yesterday he was quoting the price rises in April and May which in all fairness to him he warned me about a month ago. He also was saying that there was tens of thousands of hectares of wheat and barley which are now off the market one way or another in Ukraine. I won’t quote the amounts as it seems unbelievable. He still thought they would have some type of harvest but not a full output one.
I also think the government should have acted before now to give farmers an incentive to grow. As you said not a hand out but some minimum cushion payment or insurance that at least most of the inputs would be recovered in the event of some collapse.
There’s pages and pages of farmers warning of food shortages and reliance on imports no one has listened and still no one is listening.
Reading on here and hearing folks views elsewhere we are generally keen to provide food for a profit everything is in place to do it seems silly not to be getting on with it
Father had an ADAS advisor in the 80’s Frank Grimshaw very clever fella and all round nice bloke and family friend he always warned of this happening I often think about this

Who the hell is going to want to buy and winter the 300kg and below store cattle this autumn? Going to be some bloody sad faces up in the box unless the beef price rises further and further

 

[livestock 1]

Who the hell is going to want to buy and winter the 300kg and below store cattle this autumn? Going to be some bloody sad faces up in the box unless the beef price rises further and further

Yes it needs to rise for a number of reasons or they will just be wintered on silage

 

[thorpe]

Yes it needs to rise for a number of reasons or they will just be wintered on silage

there might not be much silage yet!

 

[Full of bull(s)]

Yes it needs to rise for a number of reasons or they will just be wintered on silage

Looking at the number of soft fleshy yearlings that come forward this time of year is that such a bad thing? Cake at £400 is an incentive to invest in grass leys, getting more out of their land and ending up with better grass cattle for the next man

 

[thorpe]

im glad we have a barn full of barley straw that nobody wants YET !

 

[livestock 1]

there might not be much silage yet!

There might not be much or there could be loads depending on what happens. Some folks have been hoarding it for a couple of years now and if folks think it’s going to be dear they might bale every corner they can and every cow and ewe looks in the wrong direction will be culled
Otherwise as you say folks might try and grow grass with no fert keep the cows and bingo silage will be scarce and dear. Who knows.
Most predictions are difficult now

 

[livestock 1]

Looking at the number of soft fleshy yearlings that come forward this time of year is that such a bad thing? Cake at £400 is an incentive to invest in grass leys, getting more out of their land and ending up with better grass cattle for the next man

Well there’s not as much taken off for otm now so the race is off in that respect

 

[Woolless]

There might not be much or there could be loads depending on what happens. Some folks have been hoarding it for a couple of years now and if folks think it’s going to be dear they might bale every corner they can and every cow and ewe looks in the wrong direction will be culled
Otherwise as you say folks might try and grow grass with no fert keep the cows and bingo silage will be scarce and dear. Who knows.
Most predictions are difficult now

Correct but I fear that a fodder shortage is more likely than a surplus.

 

[Werzle]

Correct but I fear that a fodder shortage is more likely than a surplus.

Stock have become too dear for some so they will probably make fodder to sell

 

[Sir loin]

A chat with my feed rep yesterday he told me end of April up £50 for the cost of making it and transporting it to me and another £40 increase for raw materials, and that is a conservative estimate

 

[neilo]

I should have studied law instead of veterinary. Could still have farmed but taken someone on to do the crap. I could have done the supervision, checking and strategy plus occasional appearances to draw lambs etc

Isn’t that all you have to do with Easycares anyway? Or is that just sales patter?

 

[Woolless]

Isn’t that all you have to do with Easycares anyway? Or is that just sales patter?

Well, I certainly would have given yesterday's session spraying numbers on the ewes for lambing a miss! The twins in particular are in big form and I was absolutely knackered afterwards. My daughter, on spray can duty, hardly broke sweat

 

[aangus]

Well, I certainly would have given yesterday's session spraying numbers on the ewes for lambing a miss! The twins in particular are in big form and I was absolutely knackered afterwards. My daughter, on spray can duty, hardly broke sweat

are you spraying the numbers on the ewes before lambing

 

[Woolless]

are you spraying the numbers on the ewes before lambing

Yes, sounds a bit arse for elbow I know. These are the performance recorded ewes lambing outside. When they lamb it goes in my book and then the lambs' tag numbers are added when I catch them up 12-24 hours later. I can read most of the ewes' tags when tagging their lambs but some tags are badly faded and of course there's always a couple of eejits.

 

[Jonny_2]

TBH I don’t think feed mills are taking the pee price wise unfortunately, just passing cost rises on whilst still taking their usual margin out. Often hear of mills round here running flat out with little time for maintenance or up grades because they aren’t big enough now, or not enough wagons to lead out. Either they are sinking money into the owners pockets whilst or margins are tight so don’t leave much to put back in.