Concrete fall in a new build

[rjjeng]

I'm going to put up an open fronted 90' by 40 foot shed in the near future,
The shed will be 6, 15' bays 30' deep with a 10' cantilever overhang.
Although the shed will initially be used for machinery storage my partner wants to get into calf rearing in the near future.

How much slope would you put on the concrete floor both left and right and front and back?
I'm thinking of putting 2" fall to one side every 15' and 2" fall from back of the shed to the front.
don't want slurry/dirty water building up at the front where feed barriers might be other than possibly 7x3 timbers on edge under the feed barrier.
I'm hoping calves will be deep litter so no issues of regularly scraping out but I'm wandering if I need to think about that possibility.

The original livestock buildings were knocked down over 40 years ago so I'm having to re think things like potential muck/slurry store too.

Has anybody got any good suggestions for where to look at potential farm building layouts/design.
It would be nice to have a plan in my head of potential feed,muck,livestock layout before I get too carried away.

 

[dannewhouse]

I'm going to put up an open fronted 90' by 40 foot shed in the near future,
The shed will be 6, 15' bays 30' deep with a 10' cantilever overhang.
Although the shed will initially be used for machinery storage my partner wants to get into calf rearing in the near future.

How much slope would you put on the concrete floor both left and right and front and back?
I'm thinking of putting 2" fall to one side every 15' and 2" fall from back of the shed to the front.
don't want slurry/dirty water building up at the front where feed barriers might be other than possibly 7x3 timbers on edge under the feed barrier.
I'm hoping calves will be deep litter so no issues of regularly scraping out but I'm wandering if I need to think about that possibility.

The original livestock buildings were knocked down over 40 years ago so I'm having to re think things like potential muck/slurry store too.

Has anybody got any good suggestions for where to look at potential farm building layouts/design.
It would be nice to have a plan in my head of potential feed,muck,livestock layout before I get too carried away.

I will add some pics. We set internal floors level and from stations slope outwards under cantilever. At the moment I have a shed with gulley's 3m out from stations 130 below floor every other station. The in between station is to have a high in the concrete 80 below floor level. We then have 50mm fall in the 15ft bays. The yard then slopes to another shed at 88mm per 1m so needed to sort drainage!!!

 

[onesiedale]

livestock shed with deep litter? Save yourself a heap of money (and straw) and just go for a hardcore floor.

 

[devonboy]

3 degrees is more than enough ,2foot on 40 is way too much, we just done a concrete pad,80 foot wide with a foot run ,which in effect is the sideways run and a foot run on 40 foot which is the back towards the front,this has prefabricated calf barns on and this run is more than adequate, hope it helps!

 

[Mur Huwcun]

Not concreted yet but I’ve set latest shed (30x23’) with 90 mm fall lengthways and 50mm in the depth. Ideally only the deoth fall wiukd be better but I needed a fall along the front for a storm drain type to collect any excess run off off the yard in case.

 

[Hesstondriver]

livestock shed with deep litter? Save yourself a heap of money (and straw) and just go for a hardcore floor.

how much straw do you reckon a hard core floor saves over concrete ?

 

[onesiedale]

difficult to quantify, but we have 3 loose yards for stock. The one that has a concrete floor is always damper underneath the stock and therefore they require more straw during the first 2 or 3 weeks untill the bedding pack has reached a depth of say 10 inches.
The stone base allows damp to draw down through it.

 

[v8willy]

livestock shed with deep litter? Save yourself a heap of money (and straw) and just go for a hardcore floor.

What about lifting stones etc when cleaning out?

 

[onesiedale]

What about lifting stones etc when cleaning out?

Take your time and make sure that the muck gets cleaned out, not dug out. You'll be surprised how little stone will actually be lifted.

 

[rjjeng]

I will add some pics. We set internal floors level and from stations slope outwards under cantilever. At the moment I have a shed with gulley's 3m out from stations 130 below floor every other station. The in between station is to have a high in the concrete 80 below floor level. We then have 50mm fall in the 15ft bays. The yard then slopes to another shed at 88mm per 1m so needed to sort drainage!!!

looking forward to seeing pictures.
so your internal floor is level in all directions?
I'm still looking at 50mm fall in 15ft both from back to front and right to left.
If I do the shed floor with no fall right to left I will have to put drains outside at end of cantilever with fall in the pipework possibly 50mm every 15ft?
I'm thinking that drain might go into a 1200mm concrete ring then into a second before going to a soak away.
a mate even suggersted 2 old diesel tanks or IBC? they would have manhole cover access to vaccy tank them out possibly once a year?

 

[devonboy]

use the concrete ring, i buried an ibc once, it just collapsed when it was empty, i think i was having an offday, got a concrete ring now

 

[dannewhouse]

Forgot to take pics when done, you get the idea though. Drain 130 below shed floor.