Concrete wall under feed barrier

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  1. Chips

    Chips Member

    Location:
    Shropshire
    Currently building a shed for youngstock and will have self locking yokes for heifers from 10-20 mths of age , the steels in the shed are ten inches , is this too wide to shutter to make the wall under the barrier , my builder says he can pack the shutters so that the wall is only 6 inches , which will mean one side will not be flush and so make either cleaning the muck out or feed barrier a little trickier . So is ten inches too much for the cattle to feed over as it certainly looks like it would be , and if so which side would you keep flush , feed or cattle side ?
     
  2. simmy_bull

    simmy_bull Member

    Location:
    North Yorkshire
    I would say it’s NOT too thick imo. As you say if you make it any narrower cleaning out will be a pain. How high is the metal work to be off the floor? Can you keep the wall slightly low which will help to create an “angled” top to the wall in effect and allow them to reach down and in close. But 10m or bigger will reach over a 10inch wall in any case I would of thought.

    Have you any heifers inside at the moment of that age range whereby you could build a false set up (timber?) to feed them and see what dimensions works?
     
  3. tr250

    tr250 Member

    Location:
    Northants
    We have one made from concrete blocks which are 9" and it's ok for cows but perhaps a bit too wide for Youngstock to reach
     
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  4. Tarw Coch

    Tarw Coch Member

    Not quite the same thing but we have timbers underneath the barriers that are narrower than the shed posts but the feed passage is 4 inches higher than the cattle standing with the concrete for the feed passage going through to flush with the inside of the steels so the scraper can run down the inside without catching in the girders whilst the timbers are packed out to the outside of the girders so you can scrape down the feed passage without catching the girders. The same could be done in concrete although timber is quick, cheap and effective.
     
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  5. Andrew

    Andrew Member

    Location:
    Huntingdon, UK
    Can you not make it 10” wide, however high you need for the feed barrier then slope it down to the feed side? Would make it easier for them to reach and be a bit self cleaning?
     
  6. fermerboy

    fermerboy Member

    Location:
    Banffshire
    We have a wall under locking yokes. We borrowed a shutter with tapered ends for the job, leaves a 6 inch wall. It's a good tidy job, we mounted the yokes as we did the pour so the supports are in the shutter wall.
    Put the straight side to the muck and the taper ends to the feed pass.
    Will get a pic later.
    I think that if I was doing a pass again I'd just buy a 6" 600mm high concrete panel and mount it in between the uprights.Think you need double stressed ones though.
    Assuming you are putting the wall and barrier between the beams on the inside side,, consider mounting the yokes at an angle across the upright, leaning out. Quite a few done like that hereabouts.
    Gives the cattle a bit more reach.
     
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  7. Pan mixer

    Pan mixer Member

    Location:
    Near Colchester
    We put half metre panels (100mm wide) on the cattle side of the post (but still within the flange) and built the trough floor up 8 inches
     
  8. Pan mixer

    Pan mixer Member

    Location:
    Near Colchester
    Edit, I miss- remembered, took a photo for you today, no trouble with 6 month olds.

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    That kerb on the cattle side is 8 inches high - so the same height as the bottom of the feed trough, they clean right up usually but they went outside this Spring without cleaning up and I will have to address that matter before they come in again - probably.
     
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  9. Forever Fendt

    Forever Fendt Member

    Location:
    Derbyshire
    10" will be fine,Bolt the yoke on the inside flange at the bottom and on the outside at the top so yoke is leaning forward cattle will reach that bit further,Leave about a 15mm gap between bottom tube and top of wall so you can adjust the neck width clamps easy
     
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