Connor bale wrapper

[Massey Ferguson 6480]

Got an old connor bale wrapper. Its an early one which has the oil pipes running into the spool block in the cab with the turn counter. Hate the fact that theres oil pipes running into cab aswell its a fair old lump to lift up into a cab.All tractors now have atleast 3 spool valves so thinking of doing away with wrappers own spool block and using the tractors spools meaning i only need the counter in the cab. Will it be possible to pipe it up this way? Turntable will likley need a return but bale tip and lifting arm are just double acting. Any suggestions or advice welcome

 

[Dave W]

All 3 functions will work fine plugged straight into spools. No need for special returns

 

[Massey Ferguson 6480]

All 3 functions will work fine plugged straight into spools. No need for special returns

Ah, yeah now i think about it, oil will only be pumped when i need it so wont be constantly circulating. Just need so quick release ends and maybe some blanks.

 

[DrDunc]

Got an old connor bale wrapper. Its an early one which has the oil pipes running into the spool block in the cab with the turn counter. Hate the fact that theres oil pipes running into cab aswell its a fair old lump to lift up into a cab.All tractors now have atleast 3 spool valves so thinking of doing away with wrappers own spool block and using the tractors spools meaning i only need the counter in the cab. Will it be possible to pipe it up this way? Turntable will likley need a return but bale tip and lifting arm are just double acting. Any suggestions or advice welcome

Did exactly this to a McHale 991 that had spool block lifted into cab

Needed 4 spools for it though: Bale lift arm and turntable were double acting, and bale tip and bale cut were both single acting

Each lever on the wrapper spool block will have either one or two pipes. Number of levers = number of tractor spools needed. If two pipes connected to the spool slice, it's double acting. One pipe and it's single acting; you need to put the tractor spool into float for the other direction

 

[Dave W]

Got an old connor bale wrapper. Its an early one which has the oil pipes running into the spool block in the cab with the turn counter. Hate the fact that theres oil pipes running into cab aswell its a fair old lump to lift up into a cab.All tractors now have atleast 3 spool valves so thinking of doing away with wrappers own spool block and using the tractors spools meaning i only need the counter in the cab. Will it be possible to pipe it up this way? Turntable will likley need a return but bale tip and lifting arm are just double acting. Any suggestions or advice welcome

How does the wrap cutter work?

 

[Massey Ferguson 6480]

How does the wrap cutter work?

linked to the tip circuit, when you pull the tip lever it grabs the wrap and keeps hold. When you begin to wrap the next bale it slowley starts to open again

 

[Dave W]

linked to the tip circuit, when you pull the tip lever it grabs the wrap and keeps hold. When you begin to wrap the next bale it slowley starts to open again

Should be pretty straightforward then with 3 spools

 

[Massey Ferguson 6480]

Should be pretty straightforward then with 3 spools

I was hoping so, new tractor this year so hoping to save the need to make a bracket to fit it into cab. Full of plastic and as dunc knows there a fair weight.

 

[Massey Ferguson 6480]

Did exactly this to a McHale 991 that had spool block lifted into cab

Needed 4 spools for it though: Bale lift arm and turntable were double acting, and bale tip and bale cut were both single acting

Each lever on the wrapper spool block will have either one or two pipes. Number of levers = number of tractor spools needed. If two pipes connected to the spool slice, it's double acting. One pipe and it's single acting; you need to put the tractor spool into float for the other direction

Did it work well? Mines an automatic cut and hold. so i will have 2 pipes for turntable, forward and reverse. 2 pipes for loading arm, up and down then a single pipe for bale tip. Hopefully can then set timer for electric spool to finish turning after correct amount of turns. Did you have a return on the orginal set up but do away with it after you plumped straight to spools?

 

[DrDunc]

Did it work well? Mines an automatic cut and hold. so i will have 2 pipes for turntable, forward and reverse. 2 pipes for loading arm, up and down then a single pipe for bale tip. Hopefully can then set timer for electric spool to finish turning after correct amount of turns. Did you have a return on the orginal set up but do away with it after you plumped straight to spools?

Aye, originally there was feed and return pipe from wrapper block that plugged into tractor

Did away with those, and just piped outlets from each slice into tractor spool. Was worried the table motor would "see" too much back pressure returning it through the tractor spool instead of a free flow return, but must've done over 5k bales with it like that and had no issues

While I had electric spools on the tractor, the flow rate varied a bit with engine revs. Meant I couldn't set a timer for the turntable.

Instead I manually held one spool until the counter beeped. Easy to slow the thing down that way if there was a mis-shaped bale

Programmed the headland management with timers for bale tip and cut, though obviously that's not necessary on yours

 

[Massey Ferguson 6480]

Aye, originally there was feed and return pipe from wrapper block that plugged into tractor

Did away with those, and just piped outlets from each slice into tractor spool. Was worried the table motor would "see" too much back pressure returning it through the tractor spool instead of a free flow return, but must've done over 5k bales with it like that and had no issues

While I had electric spools on the tractor, the flow rate varied a bit with engine revs. Meant I couldn't set a timer for the turntable.

Instead I manually held one spool until the counter beeped. Easy to slow the thing down that way if there was a mis-shaped bale

Programmed the headland management with timers for bale tip and cut, though obviously that's not necessary on yours

Brilliant, will be getting it out next week from winter storage and will make a start in. Thanks for your help.

 

[DrDunc]

Brilliant, will be getting it out next week from winter storage and will make a start in. Thanks for your help.

Mind put some plugs or bits of rag into the ports on the old spool block, and keep it safe

Got good money for my old McHale from a fella wanting it converted back!

 

[Greythundercloudys]

My old one just has the two pipes, one is the straight return.

 

[Massey Ferguson 6480]

All piped up and working now, all 3 spools were double acting, still needed a return as there was a small return coming from the rear ramp to let bale down softly. Seems to work fine and alot easier than lifting the old setup into the cab. Be a week or so yet to try it properly.