Continuous cereals

[Explorer]

50% wheat 25% spring barley, 12.5% spring oats, 12.5% beans?

So where would the first wheat area come from in year 2 other than the 12.5% beans?

 

[rob1]

wheat / spring oats/wheat /spring oats perhaps with a cover crop ? Much easier to control vol oats than barley just need a cleanish ground to start with

 

[Brisel]

50% wheat 25% spring barley, 12.5% spring oats, 12.5% beans?

WW/WW/SB/SO/WW/WW/SB/SBeans?
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I'm running a similar rotation, but WW/SB/WOSR/WW/SB/SOats so 1/3 wheat, 1/3 spring barley, 1/3 alternating breaks. Light land here, so take all means no second wheats.

 

[DanniAgro]

As I mentioned at BASE agm I’m experimenting with 40ac in continuous wheat with 2-3 month mostly leguminous cover between

Bit of a contrast to my “rotation” that doesnt even grow 2nd wheats

Obviously it’s goung to be a few years before I have anything useful to say about it though !

That's a tight cover crop window, Clive!
Presumably you are in the field within a few hours of the combine to sow the cover, but how successful have you been so far in getting it established and grown to a worthwhile size before having to sow the next wheat? What cover plants are you using?
Only asking as I would dearly love to do the same on my clay, but every other year the top of the soil is too wet to scratch in order to sow the cover.

 

[chaffcutter]

@Clive see above?

 

[Clive]

That's a tight cover crop window, Clive!
Presumably you are in the field within a few hours of the combine to sow the cover, but how successful have you been so far in getting it established and grown to a worthwhile size before having to sow the next wheat? What cover plants are you using?
Only asking as I would dearly love to do the same on my clay, but every other year the top of the soil is too wet to scratch in order to sow the cover.

cover crops go in within a day or so of harvest, speed is important as cut stubble acts as a chimney pulling moisture out of the soil, i'm constantly looking for ways to tighten that gap

early -mid august wheat harvest gives time for 8-10weeks of cover growth which at that time of year (warm and long days) can be significant enough to get a decent cover crop thats worthwhile, this year the 2nd wheat was drilled last week in October into above the knee covers planted august 20th

For this I used cheap and fast growing suff, mustard, sunflower and linseed based mix, I used no N but might do in this situation in the future if the continuous wheat crops prove successful

 

[DanniAgro]

cover crops go in within a day or so of harvest, speed is important as cut stubble acts as a chimney pulling moisture out of the soil, i'm constantly looking for ways to tighten that gap

early -mid august wheat harvest gives time for 8-10weeks of cover growth which at that time of year (warm and long days) can be significant enough to get a decent cover crop thats worthwhile, this year the 2nd wheat was drilled last week in October into above the knee covers planted august 20th

For this I used cheap and fast growing suff, mustard, sunflower and linseed based mix, I used no N but might do in this situation in the future if the continuous wheat crops prove successful

Thanks for a detailed reply - I will definitely try the same myself.

 

[Michael S]

I know someone growing continuous wheat no-till with a cross-slot on one farm. He says yields are generally constant from one year to the next, there never seems to be much attention paid to cover crops although he has been sowing them with a bog standard weaving tine drill. He has just bought a Horsch CO4 to improve cover crop establishment.

 

[snarling bee]

We grow continuous wheat on a non plough system, slowly using less disturbance and depth to our cultivation. Grass weeds the only issue, but late drilling usually sorts that.