Contract spraying business start up .

Precision specialists

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Arable Farmer
@Precision specialists , looking back at posts and was reminded of this thread . What happened re going into contract spraying ???
Ok so a little update . After pricing putting a proposal together to the business for me to go owner driver . It took them 5 months to finally make a decision and that was to buy 2 brand new rogators and keep me on the books . They was worried that if I went owner driver I may not come back to do there spraying . Although they loved the idea and said the proposal was very well put together . They decided it wasn't the way the business wanted to go and decided to invest in new sprayers. Win win still for me I guess
 

2wheels

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Location
aberdeenshire
Ok so a little update . After pricing putting a proposal together to the business for me to go owner driver . It took them 5 months to finally make a decision and that was to buy 2 brand new rogators and keep me on the books . They was worried that if I went owner driver I may not come back to do there spraying . Although they loved the idea and said the proposal was very well put together . They decided it wasn't the way the business wanted to go and decided to invest in new sprayers. Win win still for me I guess
you will probably make more money that way with a bit less hassle.
 

Oscar

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Livestock Farmer
Thanks for reply and up date .As others said , no risk or outlay for you and sounds a big operation so plenty of hours . However, 2 x Rogators sounds over kill on what you were proposing but maybe they farm more acres and you were only going to do part of the job ??
 

fudge

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire.
Would imagine contract spraying is the best paying contract work you can do if it is a side line bolted onto an existing arable farm .
Really? Round here the rate for a good quality long standing contractor is still £4/ac or less. That is nowhere near as profitable as spraying your own crops so why wear your machinery out doing it?
 

Precision specialists

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Arable Farmer
Thanks for reply and up date .As others said , no risk or outlay for you and sounds a big operation so plenty of hours . However, 2 x Rogators sounds over kill on what you were proposing but maybe they farm more acres and you were only going to do part of the job ??
Yes that's correct . I was only looking for a proportion of the work that I knew I could do and still make money on .one machine covers around 7000ha a season while the second machine will do 5000ha .
 

Precision specialists

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Arable Farmer
Mmmmm
something doesn’t quite add up,
Your be better off working for them !!
Believe me
How does it not add up ? Simple fact is they decided not to go with my proposal and they replaced the fleet off sprayers anyway . The whole point of my proposal to them was to save them money as I didn't expect them to replace the machinery due to the age of the kit they are running at the moment . But hey decided to go down the lease route and pay me a good salary anyway as they value me as an employee and didn't want me leaving
 

RAF

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staffs
You must have better fields to go at round there , you will make a living but profitable 🤨 but tbf there’s no profit anywhere now a days. And what else would we do 🤷‍♂️
 
Location
North Notts
It’s one of those jobs that sound good if you say I’ve sprayed 100 ha @ £10 ha but if you’re only covering 5000 ha/year it’s only 50 k . I’d have thought £40 k running costs 10 k labor
 

Precision specialists

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Arable Farmer
It’s one of those jobs that sound good if you say I’ve sprayed 100 ha @ £10 ha but if you’re only covering 5000 ha/year it’s only 50 k . I’d have thought £40 k running costs 10 k labor
Second machine is covering 5000ha .i think your getting the wrong end of the stick here.go back and see what my initial post was about. Everyone seems to be jumping on the band wagon saying we now can't justify 2 new rogators 🤦
 

Precision specialists

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Arable Farmer
I was just using 5000 as a number it’s up to you or your gaffer to justify what you have .
yeah fair comment. One machine will be doing about 12000 ac a season. It's all on high value veg . We've tried using contractors before even to just cover holidays and they just cut the rates to get through the work and make a mess. One lad went 10ha short on chemical and 200kg of slug pellets that in itself was a justification to keep the spraying under one roof
 

D14

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yeah fair comment. One machine will be doing about 12000 ac a season. It's all on high value veg . We've tried using contractors before even to just cover holidays and they just cut the rates to get through the work and make a mess. One lad went 10ha short on chemical and 200kg of slug pellets that in itself was a justification to keep the spraying under one roof

I’m intrigued how they make a £300,000 sprayer stack up on 6000ha of total work. Basically that’s 10 passes over a 600ha block of ground. That rogator will be worth £100,000 in 5 years so £200,000 over 30,000ha of total work is £6.70/ha in depreciation alone before any running costs?
 

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