davidroberts30
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FfsDepends on the type of land of course but i would say at least a fiver acre too much for heavy land!
FfsDepends on the type of land of course but i would say at least a fiver acre too much for heavy land!
For last year NAAC were saying something like £25 for light ground, of course prices have had to go up but by £12 acre in one year?
25 inc diesel?For last year NAAC were saying something like £25 for light ground, of course prices have had to go up but by £12 acre in one year?
( Of course some areas prices are higher than others )
There would only be a handful of our customers that would have the capacity on their yard to replace fuel used by the silage team when the forager will take 1200l off the top of my head plus rake buckrake and never less than 2 trailersI don't like the idea of filling up at farms (from both the farmer and contractors points of view) but at the same time how do you put in an accurate value for the amount of fuel you used on a job, unless you tow a bowser round and fill before you leave, recording litres used?
Doing the job, then adding what you think its used could cause issues.
Its a tricky one because some will eat the extra cost and use it as a way to undercut for work, while others might raise rates when fuels high and not want to lower them when it drops.
Exactly£25/ac is a joke inc fuel for ploughing as fuel alone would eat nearly 50% of that charge
How big is your day or has the fuel tank got hole in it to use 1200lts in a dayThere would only be a handful of our customers that would have the capacity on their yard to replace fuel used by the silage team when the forager will take 1200l off the top of my head plus rake buckrake and never less than 2 trailers
Don’t be pedantic obv not using 1200l in a single day and I didn’t state it eitherHow big is your day or has the fuel tank got hole in it to use 1200lts in a day
Are you fueling up with customers ?Best & only way to do it is to , charge for the work, then fill up with fuel meter & charge for the fuel by the litre at which it cost to buy on that day
Some times we use there fuel some times it is our fuelAre you fueling up with customers ?
Plus you have to run everything back to the farm yard to fill, mower, rake and forager could be miles away and coming back on themselves for the next job.There would only be a handful of our customers that would have the capacity on their yard to replace fuel used by the silage team when the forager will take 1200l off the top of my head plus rake buckrake and never less than 2 trailers
28.50 I was charged^^ £37 an acre yes with fuel. You think it’s a lot or cheap !
I’ve had contractors turn up on silage from 40 mile away with 2 harvesters and 12 trailers plus 2 shovels and they filled up from their own bowser after they’d done the first load when they arrived at the pit. Didn’t expect it but he said why should we pay for his travelling fuel.As a user of contractors its always a difficult one. If he turns up with a well matched unit then it shouldn’t be a problem the rate per hour should match the work done the problems arise when that 300+ hp tractor arrives to do a boys job because its either the only tractor available or its the drivers aye bin job.
Contractors usually draw from my tank the other problem I see is when the last job was 50+ miles away and a whole squad arrive in with 200 hp tractors having driven for a couple of hours just to get here especially when their yard is next door. In this case perhaps a metered bowser system might be fairer to all.
I have a meter on the tank but would any contractor fill up before the start and bill the last customer?
To be fair to the contractor I ran out once and although the tank was filled that day they were away before they could get any juice but the bill + fuel was at the exact same price as I had just paid. That wouldn't be so easy at the moment with the yoyo prices.
sounds a realistic charge and sustainable. trouble is many farmers arent great business men and dont know the true costs involved involved in running their business/tractors etc until it too late - esp true when acting as a part time contractorI was £30 an acre for ploughing last year and £34 this year take it or leave it. Most of the stuff I'm in is pretty stoney and ploughing 1 acre an hour would be average. Debating whether or not this will be my last year doing it
So how do they make that money back? They paid staff to drive for an hour not earning plus the fuel,we’re they more expensive per ac than the local lot?I’ve had contractors turn up on silage from 40 mile away with 2 harvesters and 12 trailers plus 2 shovels and they filled up from their own bowser after they’d done the first load when they arrived at the pit. Didn’t expect it but he said why should we pay for his travelling fuel.
Had other contractors then which were nearby and they’d driven 30 miles and didn’t fill off their own backs. As the one with the bowser filling up the road miles said what is a few hundred pound when the bill was going to be £25k+.
inc fuel or plus?I was £30 an acre for ploughing last year and £34 this year take it or leave it. Most of the stuff I'm in is pretty stoney and ploughing 1 acre an hour would be average. Debating whether or not this will be my last year doing it