davidroberts30
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surly its on the bill somewhere?So how do they make that money back? They paid staff to drive for an hour not earning plus the fuel,we’re they more expensive per ac than the local lot?
surly its on the bill somewhere?So how do they make that money back? They paid staff to drive for an hour not earning plus the fuel,we’re they more expensive per ac than the local lot?
Has to be. No point throwing free fuel in to get the worksurly its on the bill somewhere?
Inc. There was one or 2 doing it last year for about 24ish Inc fuel. Not sure what they are now.inc fuel or plus?
Is it though? £34 an acre averaging an acre an hour is £34 per hour. To run a tractor and plough.....the simplist
sounds a realistic charge and sustainable. trouble is many farmers arent great business men and dont know the true costs involved involved in running their business/tractors etc until it too late - esp true when acting as a part time contractor
It's not enough, plain and simple. Sometimes you get a better field and you can do 1.5 acres an hour. Make a little bit leveling and sowing grass. But if you are off the tractor 20 times an hour to hammer stones out from below the skims you'd be better off not being there!Is it though? £34 an acre averaging an acre an hour is £34 per hour. To run a tractor and plough.....
Sounds like a dead loss to me. Sell them the plough to do it themselves.Thats 20 times an hour to unblock stones, not 2 haha.
I'll burn 10 litres of diesel an hour plus at a guess £5 to £7 of metal an acre so you are pushing £20 an acre before further wear and tear on the plough and tractor is even considered. So there's not much left. Be better just jobbing around.
Thinking this may be my last year after 10 years at it. Only a sideline anyway, been trying to figure out what else to do in place, might get a post knocker as there's no fencer for 20 milesSounds like a dead loss to me. Sell them the plough to do it themselves.
I've been fencing 10 years but looking for something else to do. Can't win what ever you decide.Thinking this may be my last year after 10 years at it. Only a sideline anyway, been trying to figure out what else to do in place, might get a post knocker as there's no fencer for 20 miles
I gave up fencing when someone locally decided to start up. They'd sold a quite large business (non ag) and had plenty of money to spend on whatever they wanted. They decided people were getting ripped off by fencing contractors so were doing the job for the price of the materials. I did say you won't making a living like that and got the reply 'we don't need to'.I've been fencing 10 years but looking for something else to do. Can't win what ever you decide.
ffsInc. There was one or 2 doing it last year for about 24ish Inc fuel. Not sure what they are now.
Every ones circumstances are different...doing a lot of ploughing now, with a 20 + yr old tractor of around 180/200 hp bought and fitted with new tyres for around£20k. My plough is 10 years old...full spec, vari width etc... tractor won't devalue much if any. Have my smaller younger tractor as back up, all paid for...Tooling up for a job like ploughing is a scarey thought these days. The guy I used has just retired and held a sale of machines. Adding the tractor price onto the plough price one yolk made 85k and the other 54k with a third occasional use plough making 5.7k. and the tractors it was used on bid from 17k to 46k some not sold. How can anyone start out in business with those prices and the rates quoted above and make a margin?
edit. and perhaps commission on top of those prices.
Yes but the cost of replacement needs to be factored in. If the gearbox let go ploughing,would you replace or repair?Every ones circumstances are different...doing a lot of ploughing now, with a 20 + yr old tractor of around 180/200 hp bought and fitted with new tyres for around£20k. My plough is 10 years old...full spec, vari width etc... tractor won't devalue much if any. Have my smaller younger tractor as back up, all paid for...
It would deffinatly be repaired...the 8200 series Dynashift Massey's are very highly regarded.Used tractors are often ,better the devil you know, break faliure contamination ,and the future expensive never ending problems would be my biggest concern about used tractors.Yes but the cost of replacement needs to be factored in. If the gearbox let go ploughing,would you replace or repair?