Contracting Costs

ARW

Member
Location
Yorkshire
Luckily our business is simple so I think we may charge our rate then the diesel separately while it’s so volatile
I’m sick of people saying how things are getting so much more expensive, which isn’t actually true, for instance our charges have gone up but our margins aren’t any different, so you are getting the same value for money it’s just the number of money is more.
 

v8willy

Member
Mixed Farmer
Must have got some massive fuel tanks if farmers can supply a contracting gang who are maybe consuming thousands of litres p/day on the same farm for 2-5days . Whos checking they are turning up with full tanks to start with or working out whos using what to do each job
Some contractors here turn up fully fueled & when done a fuel lorry fills the lot & farmer gets handed the bill, used to fill up on farm but after a few injector pump issues that all stopped.
 

jg123

Member
Mixed Farmer
We dont use many but all contractors fill from our tank and nearly every farm for 30/40 miles that i know of unless its a very small farm and they bill fuel. They have no issue using a huge tractor with the pump turnt 3 times 😂 I really dont see how people can not trust a tractor to come to the farm full but are happy to trust the figure of fuel billed for. I dont really want to pay a flat rate on my light land when next door could have heavy clay and burn 50% more fuel. As for silage the acres are irrelevant to fuel useage.
 

som farmer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
our contractor picked up a concrete block, with his forager, big mess. Another contractor, came in, and helped out, he had gps, and billed for acres, as shown on gps. Our contractor, only a small outfit, had to calculate the gps area, against the farmers stated area, not very accurate, is a polite way of saying it. 1 had been understating by 20+ acres/year, for years. Totally out of order, small unit, as helpful as possible, not expensive either,
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
our contractor picked up a concrete block, with his forager, big mess. Another contractor, came in, and helped out, he had gps, and billed for acres, as shown on gps. Our contractor, only a small outfit, had to calculate the gps area, against the farmers stated area, not very accurate, is a polite way of saying it. 1 had been understating by 20+ acres/year, for years. Totally out of order, small unit, as helpful as possible, not expensive either,
So the farmer told fibs and left concrete blocks lying about?
 

v8willy

Member
Mixed Farmer
In years gone by, fuel lorries refused to fill machinery, but they do now
In years gone by it was maybe 15 gallon into a 7610, now it's maybe closer to 1000 liters into a sp that you can see into the tank.

Some of the farms round here are still running gravity fed tanks with a 3/4 hose & the bottom at eye level, be a long time filling a chopper & likely wouldn't hold enough to do it anyway,
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
In years gone by it was maybe 15 gallon into a 7610, now it's maybe closer to 1000 liters into a sp that you can see into the tank.

Some of the farms round here are still running gravity fed tanks with a 3/4 hose & the bottom at eye level, be a long time filling a chopper & likely wouldn't hold enough to do it anyway,
My mobile drier took 600 litres and they wouldnt fill it
 

Werzle

Member
Location
Midlands
Some contractors here turn up fully fueled & when done a fuel lorry fills the lot & farmer gets handed the bill, used to fill up on farm but after a few injector pump issues that all stopped.
Booking a lorry to turn up with fuel shortages is going to be tricky and H&S means many fuel lorry drivers will not risk being caught filling tractors or drums etc.
 

som farmer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
So the farmer told fibs and left concrete blocks lying about?
certainly very inaccurate with their acreages, but not leaving concrete blocks around on purpose.
When you think he has been silageing some of those farms, for 20 yrs, you are looking at a lot of money, some farms, he was the only person who would do their silageing, without payment up front, l just think its wrong, how he reacts to it, he doesn't yet know, he's to nice a person, which makes it worse. And you cannot argue against gps used properly, ours pretty well matched the SFP maps, which is the acreage we gave him.
 

willy

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Rutland
certainly very inaccurate with their acreages, but not leaving concrete blocks around on purpose.
When you think he has been silageing some of those farms, for 20 yrs, you are looking at a lot of money, some farms, he was the only person who would do their silageing, without payment up front, l just think its wrong, how he reacts to it, he doesn't yet know, he's to nice a person, which makes it worse. And you cannot argue against gps used properly, ours pretty well matched the SFP maps, which is the acreage we gave him.
Surley the farmers knew the size of their own fields?
 

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