Contractors ,Silage cost by the ton

[dowcow]

Why is that then ? , What does it cost you to empty your store on to the field next to it ?

Considerably less than it costs to empty it onto a field 2 miles away, with the tanker at least it takes twice as long. With the umbilical there's a lot less setting up and cleaning up, less pipe wearing away, not to mention the pumping probably requires half the tractor that pumping it two miles does... although thats just a guess as I thanfully have never had a day on the pumps. It does look like the most dull job in the world... requiring a good book/TV/phone by the looks of it.

 

[fiat 9090]

Depending on the crop and size of day 50 to 100 a day[/QUOTEthats fair going it must be hard if grass comes in at the same time does it take much to change over

 

[Speedstar]

Considerably less than it costs to empty it onto a field 2 miles away, with the tanker at least it takes twice as long. With the umbilical there's a lot less setting up and cleaning up, less pipe wearing away, not to mention the pumping probably requires half the tractor that pumping it two miles does... although thats just a guess as I thanfully have never had a day on the pumps. It does look like the most dull job in the world... requiring a good book/TV/phone by the looks of it.

Engine driven pump ,cost is a lot less than with tankers ,we run 2 3000 gal tankers and they can move a lot in a day but the umbilical can move more in 1 hour then they can all day

 

[Lofty1984]

Thats f

If it’s anything like ours just roll the corn cracker out (if it’s been used )

 

[fiat 9090]

Sorry I made a mess of that last answer

 

[dowcow]

Engine driven pump ,cost is a lot less than with tankers ,we run 2 3000 gal tankers and they can move a lot in a day but the umbilical can move more in 1 hour then they can all day

I was meaning it should cost less to umbilical onto the field behind the store than it costs to umbilical 2 miles away. You're going to get a reduced rate with the tankers with every mile anyway, but I would have thought tankers would be by the hour. Umbilical should surely be by the hour too as the setting up time for a long pump will be longer than for a short pump. Also for a short pump you could get away with a fraction of the money sitting on the pumping end? I mean it's great you have an engine that can pump 4km, but the farmers old David Brown could probably pump the field behind the store?

 

[Speedstar]

I was meaning it should cost less to umbilical onto the field behind the store than it costs to umbilical 2 miles away. You're going to get a reduced rate with the tankers with every mile anyway, but I would have thought tankers would be by the hour. Umbilical should surely be by the hour too as the setting up time for a long pump will be longer than for a short pump. Also for a short pump you could get away with a fraction of the money sitting on the pumping end? I mean it's great you have an engine that can pump 4km, but the farmers old David Brown could probably pump the field behind the store?

We have 2 reelers and we can put out 4000 meters of hose very fast and with the hose humper wrap it all up fast again, it is a horse's for courses thing ,we do a lot of specialist jobs that other people can not do for one reason or the other and like a new challenge from time to time

 

[holywell farmer]

Bloody great the claas direct disc headers we added a second newer one last season can fair cover some ground with them

Do you mow any whole crop with non conditioner mower ever ?

 

[Lofty1984]

No there isn’t any need when you have a direct cut head it saves two jobs ( mowing and rake ) plus you loose minimal grains

 

[holywell farmer]

No there isn’t any need when you have a direct cut head it saves two jobs ( mowing and rake ) plus you loose minimal grains

But if were to mow just put crop straight into a swaf ?

 

[davidroberts30]

But if were to mow just put crop straight into a swaf ?

He doesn't need to

 

[mtx.jag]

He doesn't need to

And go stone picking with the forager

 

[benferg]

But if were to mow just put crop straight into a swaf ?

There are a few places in nz that use a dedicated windrower to row up wholecrop. They do it in the states too.
You would chop more hectares in a day as a grass pickup takes less hp to run but I think if you are cutting quite dry crop the grain loss would kill any savings.

 

[Lofty1984]

But if were to mow just put crop straight into a swaf ?

You could but you wouldn’t want to do it with a mower conditioner really as it would hammer the crop plus picking up a 10ft swath with a spf be bloody painful so you’d need to rake it which again would hammer the crop plus stones as @mtx.jag says hence the need for direct cut headers.
I’m sure some people do mow it to chop and obviously they do to bale it

 

[ploughman1963]

We now to pick up with forage wagons - conditioner removed, raked 3-1 very slow and not in heat of day. We rake to present as much of the crop across the knives as possible. Works best with under-sowing.
Clamps and feeds well.

 

[fiat 9090]

We now to pick up with forage wagons - conditioner removed, raked 3-1 very slow and not in heat of day. We rake to present as much of the crop across the knives as possible. Works best with under-sowing.
Clamps and feeds well.

How do you crack the grain

 

[davidroberts30]

How do you crack the grain

you dont,thats arable silage,cut when the grain is soft and cheesy
if there's grain there and needs cracking then thats wholecrop

 

[fiat 9090]

And go stone picking with the forager

Not if you had a rock stopper

 

[mtx.jag]

Not if you had a rock stopper

Not many older foragers would have them fitted until recently I wouldn’t of thought,could be wrong though

 

[fiat 9090]

you dont,thats arable silage,cut when the grain is soft and cheesy
if there's grain there and needs cracking then thats wholecrop

I thought we were talking about wholecrop