COP26 ... Your predictions

primmiemoo

Member
Location
Devon
I for one am fed up with these pompous ass holes trying their very hardest to make farmers the whipping boys of this so called climate "emergency", I'm a big fan of the royal tradition but was a little surprised when Charlie decides to tell the world he's doing his bit by giving up meat on Mondays & Tuesdays as if it made a difference, bet that went down really well with his hundreds of livestock producing tenant farmers, if it's such a great idea how about rent free Mondays & Tuesdays just to balance the books up a bit!
A wise old chap once said "better to keep your opinions to yourself & let people think you're a fool then to give them & confirm all their suspicions"! Maybe the queen should have passed this advise onto Charlie & Andrew a long long time ago.
Great play is made of organic farming but for 95% of livestock farmers the only difference between organic & traditional farmers are a couple of cwt of fertiliser per acre which is a minuscule part in the grand scale of the problem.

He eats no meat one day a week, and no fish on another. A fish day might be his dairy-free day. He has a healthy, omnivorous diet. HMQ is known to have one day of fasting a week. That's a very healthy thing to do.
 

BrianV

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Dartmoor
He eats no meat one day a week, and no fish on another. A fish day might be his dairy-free day. He has a healthy, omnivorous diet. HMQ is known to have one day of fasting a week. That's a very healthy thing to do.
Maybe so but it just reinforces the anti meat brigade as it implies eating meat in this country is some how harm full to the planet, as I say if meat production is to be cut back as he implies then obviously he would want to do the right thing & reduce livestock farms rents accordingly otherwise one would appear to be a total hypocrite!
 
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Humble Village Farmer

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BASE UK Member
Location
Essex
One lot of experts are telling us to grow more grass and keep more livestock to improve soil health and get more carbon into soils.

Now methane is so bad that all livestock are ruining the atmosphere and must be done away with so that everyone can carry on as they are - flying, driving, ploughing, going to the moon etc
 

Jonp

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Gwent
Whether you believe in global warming or not doesn't matter. Pretty soon we'll have consumed all our resources, run out of enough fresh water in large parts of the world, polluted our environment and killed off lots of biodiversity that's useful to us.
We'll then start fighting over what's left....after a long long dark winter things might be done a better way.
 
This the complete stupidity of the argument, UK farmland may produce 10% of emissions which is highly debatable but it absorbs an incalculable amount of emissions, contrast that with the businesses, cities & towns of this country which emits the vast majority of the UK‘s pollution but has no balancing on the plus side whatever!
FFS businesses are buying up farmland to "offset" their terrible pollution & yet farmers themselves with their own land some how do not qualify for any off set, what a load of bullsh!t!
I've mentioned on here recently that we have been approached by a developer wanting to plant a reed bed to offset their Phosphates from new houses. The consultant chap came in this week to look over the area that I thought they could have as it is already a patch of reed bed and the job's a good 'un, but no, they have to have the next area of meadow so it is a new reedbed, and I can cut and bale the existing reedbed a couple of times to revert it to grass again. All boxes ticked. :)
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
One lot of experts are telling us to grow more grass and keep more livestock to improve soil health and get more carbon into soils.

Now methane is so bad that all livestock are ruining the atmosphere and must be done away with so that everyone can carry on as they are - flying, driving, ploughing, going to the moon etc
I think, general scientific opinion has not caught up with the new discoveries about the synergy between grazing plants/mega fauna/soil bacteria/soil fungi and it's (soils) ability to sequestrate Carbon when managed appropriately, this could in part have something to do with the fact that money is being spent to lobby and provide research to "prove" that lab produced meat is a good idea, tree planting to offset Carbon emissions works, farming hydroponically using lots of fertlisers/sprays/GM technology will save the world and ultra processed food is nutritious. We only have to look at the cul-de-sac we have been in for the last 50 years after Ancel Keys was funded by the sugar industry and the number of deaths from obesity that have resulted from that partnership!
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
I've mentioned on here recently that we have been approached by a developer wanting to plant a reed bed to offset their Phosphates from new houses. The consultant chap came in this week to look over the area that I thought they could have as it is already a patch of reed bed and the job's a good 'un, but no, they have to have the next area of meadow so it is a new reedbed, and I can cut and bale the existing reedbed a couple of times to revert it to grass again. All boxes ticked. :)
why not cut it and revert it to grass first, then they can make it a reed bed?
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
Whether you believe in global warming or not doesn't matter. Pretty soon we'll have consumed all our resources, run out of enough fresh water in large parts of the world, polluted our environment and killed off lots of biodiversity that's useful to us.
We'll then start fighting over what's left....after a long long dark winter things might be done a better way.
I agree, all we hear about at the moment is Climate change, but we are using too much of everything, we need to reduce our consumption full stop. A lot on the news about cancelling Christmas, well, if it means we buy less Chinese tat because of the lorry drive shortage, that will be a good thing for the planet.
 

Bald Rick

Moderator
Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
To answer my own question which I posed in the OP ..

What grandiose gesture will Boris unleash on our unsuspecting public at COP?

Well, I doubt it will have a direct impact on UK agriculture .... simply because Johnson has no jurisdiction over the devolved countries.

There is bound to be something though
 

deere 6600

Member
Mixed Farmer
A Scandinavian lady told us what we had to do.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Common_Future
30 years later, the best we can do is take the p!ss out of another Scandinavian lady.
My prediction, therefore, is that we will get what we deserve out of COP26. Naff all.
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To answer my own question which I posed in the OP ..

What grandiose gesture will Boris unleash on our unsuspecting public at COP?

Well, I doubt it will have a direct impact on UK agriculture .... simply because Johnson has no jurisdiction over the devolved countries.

There is bound to be something though
Advise everybody to have smaller families
 

Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
To answer my own question which I posed in the OP ..

What grandiose gesture will Boris unleash on our unsuspecting public at COP?

Well, I doubt it will have a direct impact on UK agriculture .... simply because Johnson has no jurisdiction over the devolved countries.

There is bound to be something though

Worldwide compulsory rollout of 'Boris bikes'.

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