COP26 ... Your predictions

[Bald Rick]

lol, definitely not. I just keep a weather eye on what AR are up to, to remind myself what 'commitment' looks like. They may be fundamentally at odds with UK livestock producers, but in terms of getting their message across they leave us standing.

Indeed they do which perhaps demonstrates how damaging social media can be.
Who knows if Russian misinformation isn't behind AR?
It's an easy hit to lay blame on farming in our septic isle

 

[delilah]

Indeed they do which perhaps demonstrates how effective social media can be.

Edited. It's not going away, we - ie our national representative bodies - need to get up to speed, as at the moment they are embarrassingly bad.

 

[Top Tip.]

https://www.facebook.com/AnimalRebellion/posts/1042676013151301

How do nutters like that stroll in and get a seat at the table while bodies like NFUS are being rebuffed and are really struggling to get a seat at the table.

 

[delilah]

How do nutters like that stroll in and get a seat at the table while bodies like NFUS are being rebuffed and are really struggling to get a seat at the table.

not sure they've a seat at any table of significance, just a fringe meeting ?

 

[delilah]

How do nutters like that stroll in and get a seat at the table while bodies like NFUS are being rebuffed and are really struggling to get a seat at the table.

My question to NFUS would be : are you going to be at this event ?

https://cop26coalition.org/peoples-...-highlighting-agroecology-as-real-solution-2/

Because that is where we as an industry need to be. Making alliances, finding common ground, understanding who our allies and who our enemies are. No point going to COP and putting our wagons in a circle, we don't have enough wagons.

 

[Bald Rick]

Edited. It's not going away, we - ie our national representative bodies - need to get up to speed, as at the moment they are embarrassingly bad.

No, I deliberately wrote damaging.
SM is awash with "facts" i.e. personal opinions stated as fact.

 

[Top Tip.]

My question to NFUS would be : are you going to be at this event ?

https://cop26coalition.org/peoples-...-highlighting-agroecology-as-real-solution-2/

Because that is where we as an industry need to be. Making alliances, finding common ground, understanding who our allies and who our enemies are. No point going to COP and putting our wagons in a circle, we don't have enough wagons.

They are going to be there and you’re approach is exactly the way it is being tackled absolutely no point in going in to antagonise. My point is that they have found it very difficult to get a toe in the door.

 

[Hindsight]

Putin not coming now. Perhaps the irony of EU leaders demanding cuts in co2 while begging him for gas was too much comedy for him to handle.

Washing his hair that evening, apparently.

 

[delilah]

They are going to be there and you’re approach is exactly the way it is being tackled absolutely no point in going in to antagonise. My point is that they have found it very difficult to get a toe in the door.

I've just had another look at the speakers at that event. There is a lady from NFU Canada. How incredibly refreshing. How can it be that in Canada their NFU recognises that the environmental and social justice movement are farmers allies, whilst on here there is so much negativity and suspicion ?

If you are part of NFUS, please do try to get a presence at that meeting, and take someone from main NFU with you

 

[delilah]

No, I deliberately wrote damaging.
SM is awash with "facts" i.e. personal opinions stated as fact.

So what do we do ? Ignore it, or use it ?
I've put these elsewhere, to demonstrate how powerful SM can be if used properly. The third one is for comparison.

https://www.facebook.com/Livestock-save-the-planet-546578159181352/

https://www.facebook.com/SustainableDish

https://www.facebook.com/NFUSchools/

 

[Bald Rick]

So what do we do ? Ignore it, or use it ?
I've put these elsewhere, to demonstrate how powerful SM can be if used properly. The third one is for comparison.

https://www.facebook.com/Livestock-save-the-planet-546578159181352/

https://www.facebook.com/SustainableDish

https://www.facebook.com/NFUSchools/

Of course you don't ignore it but once you've sold a message that resonates, it's virtually impossible to alter that.

 

[farmerm]

Our plumber came to service our oil boiler and explained he spends a lot of his time now removing heat pumps and fitting oil boilers because home owners realise they are costing an absolute bomb in electricity and that they only work if your home is insulated to the max and has no drafts whatsoever. This means you need modern UPVC windows which start and remain draft tight- many timber framed windows don't remain draft tight forever because wood naturally moves around as it ages.

Such sealed up houses get damp and moldy because the moisture from cooking, showering and breathing cant escape!

 

[Highland Mule]

Such sealed up houses get damp and moldy because the moisture from cooking, showering and breathing cant escape!

Not if they’re done properly. Heat recovery on a decent extraction system gets rid of all the problems you describe.

 

[lloyd]

What a enviromental and health disaster with upto 25000 people converging at Glasgow .The hypocrisy and blatant disregard for what they preach is off the charts.

 

[N.Yorks.]

I for one am fed up with these pompous ass holes trying their very hardest to make farmers the whipping boys of this so called climate "emergency", I'm a big fan of the royal tradition but was a little surprised when Charlie decides to tell the world he's doing his bit by giving up meat on Mondays & Tuesdays as if it made a difference, bet that went down really well with his hundreds of livestock producing tenant farmers, if it's such a great idea how about rent free Mondays & Tuesdays just to balance the books up a bit!
A wise old chap once said "better to keep your opinions to yourself & let people think you're a fool then to give them & confirm all their suspicions"! Maybe the queen should have passed this advise onto Charlie & Andrew a long long time ago.
Great play is made of organic farming but for 95% of livestock farmers the only difference between organic & traditional farmers are a couple of cwt of fertiliser per acre which is a minuscule part in the grand scale of the problem.

Autumn lamb price is pretty damn good at the moment??

 

[N.Yorks.]

One lot of experts are telling us to grow more grass and keep more livestock to improve soil health and get more carbon into soils.

Now methane is so bad that all livestock are ruining the atmosphere and must be done away with so that everyone can carry on as they are - flying, driving, ploughing, going to the moon etc

There's good and bad livestock systems...... we all know that. Grass based diets for UK beef and lamb

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

There's good and bad livestock systems...... we all know that. Grass based diets for UK beef and lamb

Yes but they just say livestock don't they?

 

[primmiemoo]

COP26: Document leak reveals nations lobbying to change key climate report

Countries are asking the UN to play down the need to move rapidly away from fossil fuels.

www.bbc.co.uk

Headline news, but look at the graphics for meat and where that faux information is regurgitated from.

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

COP26: Document leak reveals nations lobbying to change key climate report

Countries are asking the UN to play down the need to move rapidly away from fossil fuels.

www.bbc.co.uk

Headline news, but look at the graphics for meat and where that faux information is regurgitated from.

Huh.

 

[Ted M]

COP26: Document leak reveals nations lobbying to change key climate report

Countries are asking the UN to play down the need to move rapidly away from fossil fuels.

www.bbc.co.uk

Headline news, but look at the graphics for meat and where that faux information is regurgitated from.

Interesting to see the 58 to 42% split between animal products and "other foods" which is likely skewed anyway given the persuasion of our favourite research scientist.
If you applied nutrient density to that I daresay it would make the numbers somewhat different.
Not all foods are created equal and this method of so many kg/carbon per kg of food is far too simplistic.