Corbyn and supposed anti semetism

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
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Limousin
He has a long history of supporting Arab groups and factions that are opposed to the state of Israel. Not sure if it fully counts as anti-semitic, but he has always appeared to like discourse with with radical or terrorist groups and organisations. :scratchhead:
 

RobFZS

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It's more the people that support him, just look on any social media to see all the 'Zionist conspiracies, the monied jewish elite' etc etc, this has all come about because of his hard left following.
 

jerseycowsman

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Livestock Farmer
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cornwall
He has a long history of supporting Arab groups and factions that are opposed to the state of Israel. Not sure if it fully counts as anti-semitic, but he has always appeared to like discourse with with radical or terrorist groups and organisations. :scratchhead:
That's anti Israeli, surely?
If I criticise Saudi Arabia for invading Yemen,, does that make me anti Arab?
Someone had to speak to the IRA or the FARC in Columbia to gain peace, does that make them a troublemaker!
This all smacks of a pathetic smear campaign, has nobody learnt from the last election of how trying to smear corbyn massively backfired?
 

RobFZS

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Is this another one of those attention seeking threads you do where you say your piece, get proved wrong and disappear when the facts dont agree with your POV?

You should spent 5 mins on Twitter to just see the type of sh!t, the idiots that love Corbyn say about jews and abuse online, jewish tory mp's gets abuse and what do the Corbnynites say? f**k them i hope they die, is this the sort of politics you want? because you're always half way up JC's arse, for no obvious reason unless you're gluttony for self punishment being a farmer.

The Corbynites are now even calling for David Lammy to be deselected, what a laugh.

i'll just assume you're very naive to whats really going on, that's what some people do when they cast of genuine problems, as 'smear's .
 

RobFZS

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This all proves nothing, there are plenty of left wing Jewish groups who fully support corbyn and the Labour Party. And this certainly does not prove that corbyn himself is anti Semitic.
Nothing soo blind as those that wont see, which left wing jewish groups may these be? other than those crackpots in 'Jewish voice for Labour' which amusingly, hasn't even been going for 12 months.
 

RobFZS

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Exfarmer

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Bury St Edmunds
can somebody tell me what corbyn has actually said that is anti semetic?
Perhaps you are a little niaive , I have a fair number of left wing “friends”on face book and am frequently shocked at the posts they make.
I was told many years ago that politics is a circle where left meets right.
Some of the images posted prove that the momentum left have a very close affinity , to many in the Britain first movement.
Google monopoly bankers graffiti, or Rothschilds pig feeding picture and many others. Hitler would have been proud of them!
 
can somebody tell me what corbyn has actually said that is anti semetic?

I don't believe he has said anything anti-Semitic, and agree that a lot of people like to overblow any criticism of Israel or Israelis (Gods own children or whatever they are sometimes referred to) and it all does strike me as a smear campaign, because it was a section of Labour supporters who have been found to be making the comments or holding the views, not Corbyn himself. Of course I suspect most political parties have a fringe collection of nutters supporting them and making equally ridiculous comments but that wouldn't make much good TV. The way I see it the government and the opposition are both being led by lame ducks and we will all be better when they are both gone.
 

RobFZS

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Whilst i dont really care what corbyn snd his loony mates say ,i do think that particular protest smacks of tony bliars doings
The establishment is Blairite, so like brexit and this sort of thing, they will amplify it to remove dissidence, but there is a serious problem on the left with AS whatever way you look at it.
 

Clever Dic

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Melton
Never understood anti semitism particularly in a modern era I believe it stems from the green eyed monster of jealously.
I worked on a kibbutz many years ago and have always had a deep admiration for Isreal, they are not perfect and not without some with extreme views but don' compare them with their neighbours. Arab, Jew and gay can sit in their parliament and vote or worship as faith dictates. Likewise courts are open and corruption punished.
Palestinians have a grievance but it is used by the rest of the Arab world as a political weapon whilst in.practice they do nothing to give them infrastructure or jobs or hope.
 
Never understood anti semitism particularly in a modern era I believe it stems from the green eyed monster of jealously.
I worked on a kibbutz many years ago and have always had a deep admiration for Isreal, they are not perfect and not without some with extreme views but don' compare them with their neighbours. Arab, Jew and gay can sit in their parliament and vote or worship as faith dictates. Likewise courts are open and corruption punished.
Palestinians have a grievance but it is used by the rest of the Arab world as a political weapon whilst in.practice they do nothing to give them infrastructure or jobs or hope.

It's land belonging to the Palestinians, it's as simple as that. It would be helpful if the Israeli government wasn't largely steered by extremists themselves, you can't expect to make friends with a nation one day and cluster bomb or white phos them the next. It has to cease.
 

Clever Dic

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Melton
It's land belonging to the Palestinians, it's as simple as that. It would be helpful if the Israeli government wasn't largely steered by extremists themselves, you can't expect to make friends with a nation one day and cluster bomb or white phos them the next. It has to cease.
So does rocket attacks and suicide vests.
They were offered a separate state at Oslo but Arab politics would not let them accept it.
Why does the rest of the Arab world not pour some petrol dollars into them to create a viable economy instead of just sending arms.
The irony is they queue to get into Isreal for work as Hamas and Fatah are corrupt, incompetent and only interested in pursuing the demise of Isreal rather than raise the standard of living of their own people.
 
So does rocket attacks and suicide vests.
They were offered a separate state at Oslo but Arab politics would not let them accept it.
Why does the rest of the Arab world not pour some petrol dollars into them to create a viable economy instead of just sending arms.
The irony is they queue to get into Isreal for work as Hamas and Fatah are corrupt, incompetent and only interested in pursuing the demise of Isreal rather than raise the standard of living of their own people.

Hold the phone a second: Im European but that does not make me responsible for looking after Catalonians or Greek Cypriots. Palestinians might well speak Arabic but that does not mean they are Saudis or Syrians in all but name. The irish might speak English but they are their own nation.

Rocket attacks and suicide vests are indeed indiscriminate and terrible but that does not excuse Israel from using cluster bombs and white phosphorous in built up areas you cant punish the entire population of Palestine for the actions of a relative handful of terrorists. Can you imagine the furore if the British had dropped cluster bombs south of the border in response to drive by shootings??!
 

Clever Dic

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Location
Melton
Hold the phone a second: Im European but that does not make me responsible for looking after Catalonians or Greek Cypriots. Palestinians might well speak Arabic but that does not mean they are Saudis or Syrians in all but name. The irish might speak English but they are their own nation.

Rocket attacks and suicide vests are indeed indiscriminate and terrible but that does not excuse Israel from using cluster bombs and white phosphorous in built up areas you cant punish the entire population of Palestine for the actions of a relative handful of terrorists. Can you imagine the furore if the British had dropped cluster bombs south of the border in response to drive by shootings??!
They voted in Hamas and Fatah as did the German population who voted and supported Hitler.
 

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