Coronavirus: Anger is growing at China over COVID-19 and its apparent cover-up attempt

bluegreen

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This is the communist party of China that was expecting Hilary to win the 2016 election and handover what was left of America that they hadn't already stolen or been given on a silver plata. Previous US governments had been selling out their own people for decades! Then Trump somehow evaded the usual "rigged" voting processes and got into power and thankfully put a stop to the chicoms world domination plans.
Xi Xingping and his comrades have no intention of telling the rest of the world the truth about the virus, they would lose to much face. My sources tell me that the total death rate for Covid 19 was actually astronomical and certainly not a paltry 2000+, ffs they locked down 760 million people at one point!! Do you think they would do that for 2000 deaths? Try multiplying that by a few hundred then youd be in the ballpark.
Our government will be fully aware the Chinese have lied, but are happy to go along with their official false data to prevent mass hysteria. Which I suspect will be unavoidable when the next phase of the Vial judgements really picks up some steam during April and May. Passover and Easter wont have been this turbulent for thousands of years!
 

beardface

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Location
East Yorkshire
And your knowledge of North Korea is exactly what? Your opinion based on reports from the mainstream media no doubt? The same mainstream media that told you Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and that Libya was a threat.

My knowledge of North Korea is that its a totalitarian state with singular recognised religion based around belief in the leader. The states controls everything and limits what the outside world knows about what's going on domestically. China on the other hand is a communist state with elements of capitalism. Most things including media are state regulated. China is willing to cooperate and speak openly with the rest of the world. If China was more akin to North Korea then as I've stated we wouldn't of even been given a heads up about the virus. More cooperation between global powers is what's needed in regards to global disease and virus control not less.

By attacking China on this we are creating a situation where they may become more insular and less willing to tell the world what's going on when another outbreak occurs.
 

7610 super q

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
Of course governments that have destroyed their economy's like we have for no good reason will try and deflect attention away from that to country's like China.
No good reason ? What a load of disgraceful rubbish.
I've already lost 2 elderly relatives this year ( not due to C virus ). I've no wish to lose any more.
f**king idiots who want to carry on and ignore the lockdown like the clown on here who's sister is reopening a cafe are selfish scum.
 
Read that again – the UK’s expert advisory body on pathogens has said that ‘the mortality rate is low’

Yes, you should. Very carefully, and see why something is included as an HCID. It is not because of the number of people who will be infected, it is because of the percentage of those infected that will die.

It was originally thought by many governments around the world that the death rate would be very high - possibly being suspicious about China not disclosing the true death rate?? Who knows? It was then discovered by many of those countries that the death rate is not sufficiently high (in comparison with other diseases on the HCID list) to continue to have it on the list. You know yourself from numbers of cases and number of deaths that have been reported that the death rate is quite low in comparison to those on the HCID list. Did you know that two months ago?
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
Ah an article to try and weaponise the outbreak and demonize China that has not one scrap of evidence in it.

And why would the western media want to do that? Because China is developing fast and threatens, with it's new trade routes and alliances, the dominance of the world economy and the position of America and the dollar.

There are actually 3 theories going around as to how the virus originated including one that it was from an American weapons lab and was taken by visiting American soldiers to China during the 2019 Military World Games, officially known as the 7th CISM Military World Games which was held from October 18–27, 2019 in Wuhan.

No one will probably know the truth.

The fact is that China dealt efficiently with the outbreak and had it under control with excellent doctors and proper protective equipment (unlike the UK).

Various outbreaks of swine flu have originated in the USA but I haven't seen anyone writing articles about that. Nor about nor about how HIV ran rife in America in the early 1970's

It is simply racism, pure and simple.

The tinfoil hat brigade are out in force on this thread. Why won't folk just accept the most obvious theory that the virus simply jumped species, after all the little blighters do it all the time. :scratchhead:
 
Location
Devon
No good reason ? What a load of disgraceful rubbish.
I've already lost 2 elderly relatives this year ( not due to C virus ). I've no wish to lose any more.
fudgeing idiots who want to carry on and ignore the lockdown like the clown on here who's sister is reopening a cafe are selfish scum.

People Still need to eat and that chap is only opening a takeaway for people like lorry drivers/key workers etc.

Do you want ALL key workers/ lorry drivers to stop work as well?
 

Danllan

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Sir Gar / Carms
Exactly.

There is quite a lot of evidence now building that Covid19 is not that serious...

Read that again – the UK’s expert advisory body on pathogens has said that ‘the mortality rate is low’. We have more than likely just crashed the world economy, and make no mistake a massive recession and years of hardship will follow, whilst hundreds of thousands if not millions of people in the poorest countries will die as a direct result of this potential massive mistake.

All we needed to have done was isolate the vulnerable and to have invested properly in the NHS in the preceding years (rather than try and dismantle it for political reasons) so that it was equipped to deal with the crisis when it arose. It would have been way cheaper. The financial costs of this fiasco will be felt for a generation in the UK and many in the developing world who ‘live on the edge’ will die as a result.

You'd better tell all NHS staff & really quickly, they'll believe you because you're a social justice warrior. (y)
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
My knowledge of North Korea is that its a totalitarian state with singular recognised religion based around belief in the leader. The states controls everything and limits what the outside world knows about what's going on domestically. China on the other hand is a communist state with elements of capitalism. Most things including media are state regulated. China is willing to cooperate and speak openly with the rest of the world. If China was more akin to North Korea then as I've stated we wouldn't of even been given a heads up about the virus. More cooperation between global powers is what's needed in regards to global disease and virus control not less.

By attacking China on this we are creating a situation where they may become more insular and less willing to tell the world what's going on when another outbreak occurs.

This could be the changing of the guard as China becomes the new world superpower. They have certainly been busy leading the fight and sending medical staff and supplies to dozens of countries around the world. And the US has been conspicuous by it's total lack of world leadership or aid throughout this crisis. A future that makes me feel nervous.
 

7610 super q

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
People Still need to eat and that chap is only opening a takeaway for people like lorry drivers/key workers etc.

Do you want ALL key workers/ lorry drivers to stop work as well?
Surely lorry drivers can organize their own food and drink for a few weeks ?
Opening that cafe puts customers, staff, and those that mix with them at risk.
Stupid and selfish. If we don't take this seriously, it'll drag on for f**king years. And we could end up with a harder lockdown imposed on us.
And it looks like younger folks are taking a hit too, not just old foggies. Nearly 600 have died in the last 24 hours. How many before the likes of you take this seriously ?
 
Location
Devon
Surely lorry drivers can organize their own food and drink for a few weeks ?
Opening that cafe puts customers, staff, and those that mix with them at risk.
Stupid and selfish. If we don't take this seriously, it'll drag on for fudgeing years. And we could end up with a harder lockdown imposed on us.

Any harder lockdown and there will be hell to pay on the streets in a few weeks.

100% correct to open that takeaway.

This is going to go on for at least 2 years, rightly or wrongly the country cannot be shut down that long and people all but locked up in their homes for that long!

Sooner or later they will have to let businesses re-start and that will be long before there is a vaccine for the virus.

All other country's that have been in lockdown longer than us are realizing that after 7/8 weeks of a lockdown starting it is unsustainable to carry on much longer than that.
 

Danllan

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Sir Gar / Carms
Any harder lockdown and there will be hell to pay on the streets in a few weeks.

100% correct to open that takeaway.

This is going to go on for at least 2 years, rightly or wrongly the country cannot be shut down that long and people all but locked up in their homes for that long!

...All other country's that have been in lockdown longer than us are realizing that after 7/8 weeks of a lockdown starting it is unsustainable to carry on much longer than that.
Which first world country has experienced any public unrest? More lies you pathetic fool. :yuck:

(Just realised you must in fact be dreading the end of lock-down - you'll have to show your face in public :ROFLMAO:)
 
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Devon
Which first world country has experienced any public unrest? More lies you pathetic fool. :yuck:

(Just realised you must in fact be dreading the end of lock-down - you'll have to show your face in public :ROFLMAO:)

Well as a key worker I have been carrying on like normal, been all over the place today and will be again tomorrow!

As for the unrest, China/ Italy and France in particular.

And if you think people will put up for long being locked up in their homes in the UK I think your very much mistaken, they will take 3 and possible six weeks of it but no more!

All very well a lockdown but where is the exit plan??

Because currently there isn't one and in a few weeks time if that plan isn't clear people will get fed up very quickly.
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
Well as a key worker I have been carrying on like normal, been all over the place today and will be again tomorrow!

As for the unrest, China/ Italy and France in particular.

And if you think people will put up for long being locked up in their homes in the UK I think your very much mistaken, they will take 3 and possible six weeks of it but no more!

All very well a lockdown but where is the exit plan??

Because currently there isn't one and in a few weeks time if that plan isn't clear people will get fed up very quickly.


Most people don’t like seeing overflowing hospitals and mass body bags. Most people prefer to be alive than worry about money. Why can’t you realise that you see this different to most people. Or, I am thinking the only possibility, is that you are just on some prolonged, twisted wind up
 
Location
Devon
Most people don’t like seeing overflowing hospitals and mass body bags. Most people prefer to be alive than worry about money. Why can’t you realise that you see this different to most people. Or, I am thinking the only possibility, is that you are just on some prolonged, twisted wind up

Plenty of people see it my way actually.

Yes people will put up with it for maybe 3/6 weeks but after that without a clear exit plan from the lockdown they will not put up with it for very long.

And don't forget in the UK since yesterday the figures have been massaged to show a much higher death rate from the virus than is actually the case.

If for example say you are having a heart attack and are short of breath and tell the 999 operator that when you call then but drop dead 10 mins later that death will be recorded as being from the virus and not the heart attack even thou you haven't even been tested for the virus!

UK death rates year on year are actually the lowest this year for the last month for many years!
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
Plenty of people see it my way actually.

Yes people will put up with it for maybe 3/6 weeks but after that without a clear exit plan from the lockdown they will not put up with it for very long.

And don't forget in the UK since yesterday the figures have been massaged to show a much higher death rate from the virus than is actually the case.

If for example say you are having a heart attack and are short of breath and tell the 999 operator that when you call then but drop dead 10 mins later that death will be recorded as being from the virus and not the heart attack even thou you haven't even been tested for the virus!

UK death rates year on year are actually the lowest this year for the last month for many years!


And to put it another way, do you believe in the afterlife? Because you seem to take the state of the economy very seriously, how will you know the economic effect...
If your dead?
 

ARW

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Location
Yorkshire
According to an American podcast I listen too, China lost 2 million cell phone customers over the coronavirus period
Who knows if it’s true but I think it’s believable
 

Scribus

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Location
Central Atlantic
According to an American podcast I listen too, China lost 2 million cell phone customers over the coronavirus period
Who knows if it’s true but I think it’s believable
Is the suggestion that 2m people died of the virus in that period? Or did the cuddly Chinese Communist Party find a solution to two million dissident/undesirable problems?
 

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