If you keep a ewe too the acre, lamb end of April and don’t give any feed at any point they are bloody cheap too keep!
I stock a lot heavier than that and push them harder though.
Could I jump in on this thread and ask approx you start up costs were and what your yearly cost per ewe is now you are more experienced?Does fencing, drainage and interest come into the equation? If so they certainly aren't cheap in my world!
To be fair though, the actual sheep themselves aren't too bad, really only crovect & wormer along with some concentrates plus a little hay in the run up to lambing if the weather's hard. The odd jag & blue spray here and there but we try and run them to avoid too much buggering about. Even with fairly small numbers we try and cull poor dooers ruthlessly.
Most of our costs were in setting up from scratch.
Including rent, feeds, minerals, wormers/flukicide’s, injections, bolus’s etc etc but excluding labour I cost ewes at £40/ewe. That allows for a tack rate of 60p/ewe/week which comes to £31.Probably done a million times.
trying to get a handle on costs of running the ewes over 12 month period.
not including rent or labour.
out door lambing flock.
sure somebody altersthe figures each time I look .
I work on £65 a ewe all in. As you say that’s costing everything on the high side too allow leeway. Hence I scowl somewhat when singles straight off the ewe only come too £68 some years!Including rent, feeds, minerals, wormers/flukicide’s, injections, bolus’s etc etc but excluding labour I cost ewes at £40/ewe. That allows for a tack rate of 60p/ewe/week which comes to £31.
The other £9 is made up of everything else which is the figure you want I assume. I don’t do heptavac, ovivac, plus the 2 abortion vaccines.
Yes a lot of my rents are less than the figure quoted but that is what I work on if I rented the farm out or if i had to tack the whole lot at another farm.
Sorry to OP for going off-topic, but... that underlined bit is ever so bloody true!Well the ewes alone would be around £50/yr to keep I reckon. We went from seasonal grass keeps and winter tack on dairy farms to buying our own place 2 years ago which skews the figures somewhat, as the farm was/is needing a lot of improvement which is sucking up capital and will continue to do so for the next few years. The sheep won't really pay for that.
To be honest our costs have probably gone up a little, because we're investing heavily just now as opposed to when we were renting ground and still buying some stock in. I haven't sat down with the figures for 12 months - got a meeting with the accountant next week so may get a nasty shock.
I run a low capital input, outside lambing flock (only 200 ewes), land is free, but I do sometimes wonder if I have a hobby which pays for itself or a business
My £65 should cover it all. That which I couldn’t work out I used John Nix too provide the figures.Has anyone included depreciation, mortality, machinery/tractor, electric fencing, dogs, atv, pickup/farmcar, livestock trailer/haulage etc?
I run a low capital input, outside lambing flock (only 200 ewes), land is free, but I do sometimes wonder if I have a hobby which pays for itself or a business.
Startup cost has been substantial at least compared to the cashflow of the operation itself.
I do know that if I scale up to a flock which requires a full time shepherd and quit the city job, I should be able to pay myself €30,- per hour. At the moment I'm at a scale which requires investment in effieciency (quad bike, rappa fencer) but income wise does not justify to do so.
Maybe I'm just grumpy from 100mm of rain in the last 24 hours
Doesnt sound like there's a massive profit to be made for most sheep farmers then, unless you're all running substantial numbers. How much are lambs selling for at the moment?
There isn’t… it’s been a numbers and efficiency game for as long as I can remember.Doesnt sound like there's a massive profit to be made for most sheep farmers then, unless you're all running substantial numbers. How much are lambs selling for at the moment?