Cost of round bailing

balerman

Member
Location
N Devon
Next time you open a bale cut a square out of the plastic and count the layers we have never had that number of bales out of a roll of plastic
Measure the width of wrap on the end of the bale,750 wrap should neck down to around 600mm.If it’s much less than this,the bale won’t be covered properly at 16 turns for 4 layers.
 
I think I have the top set of gears and most people have the bottom
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Wellytrack

Member
Or 15 bales at 8 layers. The more expensive wrap has got the more wrap people want on. I've only done 15 or 20 bales this year with 4 layers

I'm finding the baling difficult the year. Wrap up, net up, Diesel up, parts hard or slow to get, Light early cuts, crops burned up to nothing back in the heat and catchy times of late.

At least the later second cuts that are overdue are decent now.
 

Grassman

Member
Location
Derbyshire
We bought a used mchale and there are different gears fitted on the stretch rollers. First try out it did forty bales at four layers but the wrap is very thin. Put six layers and it does 28. Nobody I know has these gears on theirs but when you measure the stretch,it's 70% which is what the film manufacturers say. Very odd
You have something seriously wrong to be getting those numbers of bales out of a roll of wrap😀
 

Bullring

Member
Location
Cornwall
We bought a used mchale and there are different gears fitted on the stretch rollers. First try out it did forty bales at four layers but the wrap is very thin. Put six layers and it does 28. Nobody I know has these gears on theirs but when you measure the stretch,it's 70% which is what the film manufacturers say. Very odd
Is it the standard size 1500m roll wrap or this new longer 1650 and 1800m roll stuff some manufactures do where there are 20% more bales per roll and you even 2000m rolls now all wrapped in plastic rolls instead of cardboard, they say it’s the same but I’ve used some for somebody and it feels thinner.
 

balerman

Member
Location
N Devon
Is it the standard size 1500m roll wrap or this new longer 1650 and 1800m roll stuff some manufactures do where there are 20% more bales per roll and you even 2000m rolls now all wrapped in plastic rolls instead of cardboard, they say it’s the same but I’ve used some for somebody and it feels thinner.
They are thinner,standard 1500m rolls are normally 25micron.The longer rolls vary from 20~22 micron,you really need 8 layers of 20 micron to be similar to 6 layers of standard,it’s all a con really.I stick to a standard brand that I trust.
 

egbert

Member
Livestock Farmer
True. Trouble is lots do it at mates rates because they do things for each other and then somehow that becomes the price a contractor is expected to work for.
other way round innit?
If I do a few for a neighbour, or vice versa, I'd automatically see what the going rate was with local contractors.
The money might never change hands, but you need to know,,,,

I don't imagine either of my contractors set their price on what a farmer would do it for, as a favour to a mate....that'd be some kind of lunacy.
 

egbert

Member
Livestock Farmer
They are thinner,standard 1500m rolls are normally 25micron.The longer rolls vary from 20~22 micron,you really need 8 layers of 20 micron to be similar to 6 layers of standard,it’s all a con really.I stick to a standard brand that I trust.
I reluctantly had to try some 'own brand' from a very large co-op, who want to get into everything.
It wasn't as reliable coming off the spool/keeping intact during operations as silotite, or JD from the local JD dealer.
 
Is it the standard size 1500m roll wrap or this new longer 1650 and 1800m roll stuff some manufactures do where there are 20% more bales per roll and you even 2000m rolls now all wrapped in plastic rolls instead of cardboard, they say it’s the same but I’ve used some for somebody and it feels thinner.
Silawrap. Haven't got a box to look at
 
You have something seriously wrong to be getting those numbers of bales out of a roll of wrap😀
I wouldn't say seriously wrong. I asked a mchale rep about it and he said it's got the high stretch gears on it and recommended six layers of wrap instead of four. Had some silotite wrap and it did a couple of bales less. Only doing our own and the bales are keeping better than when my mate was doing them with four layers at low stretch
 

cows sh#t me to tears

Member
Livestock Farmer
I have a provonost silage bagging machine. The 220' ' bags were $430 last year. Just spoke to my dealer this morning. Bags are now $515. That's over $10/ bale. Just for the plastic...... She also said individual wrap rolls are now $200 each. She said ALL silage plastic has gone mad....Netwrap and twine still fine... just wrap.
 

Hfd Cattle

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Hereford
Bought my wrap at £51 a bale but bought and paid for a pallet . I rarely do any for anyone else but if I do I wrap a bale for £2 and they supply the wrap . If I bale for someone else then it's £2.50 a bale but once again I'm not interested in doing someone else's .....there are contractors for that !
....I will help someone out who is in difficulties by either weather ,breakdown or illness if I can.
 

scottrac

Member
Location
lincolnshire
Bought my wrap at £51 a bale but bought and paid for a pallet . I rarely do any for anyone else but if I do I wrap a bale for £2 and they supply the wrap . If I bale for someone else then it's £2.50 a bale but once again I'm not interested in doing someone else's .....there are contractors for that !
....I will help someone out who is in difficulties by either weather ,breakdown or illness if I can.
put your price up mate,£5 a bale (baling) thats farmers and contractors (y)
 

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