Cost of sprays

teslacoils

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Think agrii is the worst for it. My guy been coming in for probably 15plus years and always been good until getting taken over by agrii. Now , I'm sure he's under pressure to push the home brews as has gone from being the type who says to use cheap DF manganese , to now....use this mitra expensive stuff . Or use cheap 3c to now use adjust . Always gives a good reason for the home brew , almost like he's read up on the sales crap knowing folk will question it [emoji849]

Which is interesting as many of my cheapest straights and basic stuff like 250g tebucobaxole have come from Agrii this year. I think about 1/3 of my agchem was sourced from them. It's only the serviced customers getting the special treatment.
 

jh.

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Location
fife
Straights and older chemistry are fine , it's the home brews some of which have the added Agrii logo on the label [emoji383][emoji389]
 

robbie

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BASIS
Think agrii is the worst for it. My guy been coming in for probably 15plus years and always been good until getting taken over by agrii. Now , I'm sure he's under pressure to push the home brews as has gone from being the type who says to use cheap DF manganese , to now....use this mitra expensive stuff . Or use cheap 3c to now use adjust . Always gives a good reason for the home brew , almost like he's read up on the sales crap knowing folk will question it [emoji849]
Reading arable farmer always makes me laugh. There's a agrii chap from down kent way, I think and what he talks about in his article is word for word what I uses to get told by my agrii rep. Sales definitely come before agronomy.

Via my buying group I've had practically nothing from them this year. Frontier and pro cam seem to be making the bulk of the deliveries along with a few from Hutchinsons.

The vast majority of my Chems have been the same cost as last year. A few have been on special offer and are cheaper and a few like CTL have been a little dearer.
 

Matt77

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
East Sussex
I'm lucky with my agrii agronomist. Not like the above at all uses 3C, and got me on ibcs of manganese and magnesium sulphate.

Only products i use with agrii logo on them are ibcs.
I think mines very good too, we seem to discuss everything and go through it with reasons, but maybe I’m just a mug (n)
 

Brisel

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Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
Which is interesting as many of my cheapest straights and basic stuff like 250g tebucobaxole have come from Agrii this year. I think about 1/3 of my agchem was sourced from them. It's only the serviced customers getting the special treatment.

Over half of mine come from Agrii via a buying group. They wouldn't get the business unless they were the cheapest.
 

teslacoils

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Over half of mine come from Agrii via a buying group. They wouldn't get the business unless they were the cheapest.

Yup. Even my teb came with a little Agrii printed on the label. Or rather some did. This was teboo but I have used several brands of teb through a buying group this season.
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
I managed to find an independent that would cover my tiny acreage a couple of years ago, after he took on a couple of other clients locally. He sources chem through his own little buying group (which I appreciate might be open to abuse, but is certainly convenient).
Even on my 90-100 acres or so of arable, he’s shaved a couple of £k off my agrochemical spend. Not only are there considerable price differences on some chems (anywhere between 10 and 100%), but the rates recc’ed are often lower, less part cans leftover and less applied generally.

Final straw for serviced was when the chems turned up before he came to walk the crops one day.:rolleyes:
 

Tractor Boy

Member
Location
Suffolk
Same here but it's odd to here that others on here who use the same buying group as me have lots of stuff from them, it must be area dependent.
I’m a member of a buying group. An Agrii agronomist and his sales manager asked for a meeting once so I agreed to see what I could learn. In the end I felt sorry for the young agronomist as he had been trying to deal with me for years but his sales manager was just a double glazing salesman! He kept trying to persuade me to make them my preferred supplier from my buying group!!! What would be the point in that? Obviously some people do it though.
 
I’m a member of a buying group. An Agrii agronomist and his sales manager asked for a meeting once so I agreed to see what I could learn. In the end I felt sorry for the young agronomist as he had been trying to deal with me for years but his sales manager was just a double glazing salesman! He kept trying to persuade me to make them my preferred supplier from my buying group!!! What would be the point in that? Obviously some people do it though.

Its a bit sad isnt it.

I have no doubt these big companies could supply you at buying group prices but with a much smaller margin and so nothing for the plucky young agronomist making him a bit pointless.

Im glad im out of it all in all honesty.
 

DanniAgro

Member
Like the OP I am a small cereals grower so have no bargaining power with Hutchinson or Frontier, so was wondering if anyone can recommend a chemicals buying group on the Glos/Herefs border, or nearby?
 

teslacoils

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Like the OP I am a small cereals grower so have no bargaining power with Hutchinson or Frontier, so was wondering if anyone can recommend a chemicals buying group on the Glos/Herefs border, or nearby?

Any arable neighbours? Piggyback on their agronomist? Do your own agronomy and buy off Farm Marketplace here. Many choices.
 

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