Countersinking disc bolts

MrNoo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Cirencester
Because the discs are so thin, do you have to also countersink the hub??
I guess it would depend on what countersink angle you get on your bolts, 82 and 90 are common but you can get 100-120 degree which would give you a much larger surface area so a thin'ish disc wouldnt be a problem.
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arcobob

Member
Location
Norfolk
I use an SDS masonry bit 20mm ground to 60 degrees with a cutting edge, Use a diamond wheel to grind, lube well and don`t use too much pressure. This is for M10 screws. Countersink the hub as Mydexta says otherwise the screws will bottom and the disc will work loose,
 

Howard150

Member
Location
Yorkshire
M8’s work fine, are strong enough and self centre without having to touch the hub. Don’t forget, 3 hole Ransomes discs locate on the hub. The disc is only subject to turning forces. Make sure the bolts are 8.8’s or 10.9’s. 60 degree will be fine. As Bob so rightly says, if you can’t get a hardened or tungsten countersink then sharpen a masonry bit accordingly.
 

Howard150

Member
Location
Yorkshire
I'm struggling to countersink them. The disc steel instantly takes the edge off the drill bit. Plan B, SDS masonry bit. Would one of these be suitable for the job? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bosch-Pr...802603?hash=item420d1c56eb:g:dmgAAOSw6yxd269H

Bob put a post on earlier. Sharpen a masonry bit up as you would an ordinary drill bit. use M8’s as it’s a lot less work and you might well get away without countersinking the hub. ......and do it s l o w l y!
 

milkloss

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
Can you drill them with a bolt or get them hot and soft in a specific area for drilling? Perhaps it would ruin the disc.

Counter sinking the hub might not need to be done as I see in an image above a round of plastic is used as a spacer, something like the side cut out of a plastic oil can.
 
Genuine Ransomes hubs bushes and sleeves have not been available for a long long time.
You can countersink everything known to mankind one way or another.......as long as you have the right countersink bit for the job in hand! Yes in a word.
That is plan B. I have also heard that the SDS masonry bits are made of harder steel, so it will interesting to see.
 

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