Country file tonite

jendan

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
Our county council paid a firm of consultants millions of pounds (I forget the exact figures) to advise them on how to save money. The consultants also get a percentage of the savings. I could have told them where to save the money for nothing... stop building new state of the art council offices, get rid of half the chiefs and get more Indians out working on the roads instead of having to wait for a job number before they can throw a bit of tarmac into a pothole.
Youve just described Northumberland County Council in a nutshell.
 

Pasty

Member
Location
Devon
As the agent said on the show, if you've got a million pound black hole and a million pound asset then it's a no brainer. Councils generally don't have foresight as they are made up of people who know they may be gone in 4 years and just want to look good in the meantime.

End of the day, the land will still get farmed. It's pretty awful for the tenants but then that's always been the case hasn't it? I've rented plenty of houses over the years and you are always wondering when you are going to get the word to clear off.

Leaving out all the heartache that people are put through, why should councils own farms in the first place?
 

banjo

Member
Location
Back of beyond
I wonder how Holland manages to keep the water out, all it takes is action from a government willing to fix a problem, the country's going down the drain listening to these idiots with the barmy ideas. It's pretty disrespectful to the generations who did solve these problems.
I always wondered why planning in certain flooding areas specifies that the bottom floor on any new build should be a garage and second floor living area, sounds simple to me and sorting parking problems in the process.
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
As the agent said on the show, if you've got a million pound black hole and a million pound asset then it's a no brainer. Councils generally don't have foresight as they are made up of people who know they may be gone in 4 years and just want to look good in the meantime.

End of the day, the land will still get farmed. It's pretty awful for the tenants but then that's always been the case hasn't it? I've rented plenty of houses over the years and you are always wondering when you are going to get the word to clear off.

Leaving out all the heartache that people are put through, why should councils own farms in the first place?
The council have made a fantastic amount of money from owning land as well aa providing a vital public service to new entrant farmers
Any normal business would then seek to INCREASE its landholdings, not get rid
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
As the agent said on the show, if you've got a million pound black hole and a million pound asset then it's a no brainer. Councils generally don't have foresight as they are made up of people who know they may be gone in 4 years and just want to look good in the meantime.

End of the day, the land will still get farmed. It's pretty awful for the tenants but then that's always been the case hasn't it? I've rented plenty of houses over the years and you are always wondering when you are going to get the word to clear off.

Leaving out all the heartache that people are put through, why should councils own farms in the first place?
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As the agent said on the show, if you've got a million pound black hole and a million pound asset then it's a no brainer. Councils generally don't have foresight as they are made up of people who know they may be gone in 4 years and just want to look good in the meantime.

End of the day, the land will still get farmed. It's pretty awful for the tenants but then that's always been the case hasn't it? I've rented plenty of houses over the years and you are always wondering when you are going to get the word to clear off.

Leaving out all the heartache that people are put through, why should councils own farms in the first place?
YOu cannot "leave the heartache" out of land, or nobody would bother to farm it either as owner or tenant , usually at a loss.
The drive for land is what propels everyone to get out of bed and till the soil
 

ladycrofter

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Highland
Surely if the tenant had made capital improvements they would be entitled to some kind of reimbursement? Anyway from the info presented the council must have a water tight case as IIRC tenants in various counties have consulted lawyers and got nowhere. What a terrible situation for them. Heartbreaking.

We forced ourselves to watch last night since they were up here (well, Aberdeenshire anyway). What pathetic reporting, they made the coast sound like a dismal dying place,a Doric version of Sleepy Hollow about to fall into the sea, is that old codger the best they could drum up to interview (no offense if he's your uncle;)). There are so many vibrant farms, harbours and other enterprises they could have gone to instead. And who the heck is that git-wick presenting the wildcat feature?!? Tee hee, don't want any human castration crossing the barbed wire - give me strength :banghead:. No wonder they leave Adam to the end, loved seeing his dog working properly and him getting some training too.
 
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jendan

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
Surely if the tenant had made capital improvements they would be entitled to some kind of reimbursement? Anyway from the info presented the council must have a water tight case as IIRC tenants in various counties have consulted lawyers and got nowhere. What a terrible situation for them. Heartbreaking.

We forced ourselves to watch last night since they were up here (well, Aberdeenshire anyway). What pathetic reporting, they made the coast sound like a dismal dying place,a Doric version of Sleepy Hollow about to fall into ther sea, is that old codger the best they could drum up to interview (no offense if he's your uncle;)). There are so many vibrant farms, harbours and other enterprises they could have gone to instead. And who the heck is that git-wick presenting the wildcat feature?!? Tee hee, don't want any human castration crossing the barbed wire - give me strength :banghead:. No wonder they leave Adam to the end, loved seeing his dog working properly and him getting some training too.
Who are you? You seem a lively type.And whats a "git-wick"?
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Watched Countryfile for the first time in ages tonight. There was a chef sitting on Dartmoor (IIRC), cooking a steak, when a very thin looking fox came and sat behind him, expecting some scraps (which he got). Strangely, there was no mention of dumping urban foxes in the countryside.:rolleyes: I've certainly never seen a wild fix do that.
 

Shadow

Member
Location
South Wales
Said exactly the same re that fox Neilo.
Don't forget the camera crew too. Possibly about 6 people around that Tor and the presenter. And the fox was up close and personal. Not wild.
Same here!

Although thinking about it, foxes are smart and adatable and there would be tons of picnickers there in the summer so maybe it has just learnt a new trick by itself?
 

Woolly

Member
Location
W Wales
As usual the most interesting part of the programme was Adam looking for diversification ideas post-Brexit, and what the Kiwis are doing, growing avocados and kiwi fruit.

Unfortunately Bay of Plenty is quite a bit warmer and wetter than most of UK, so no direct read-across.

It would be interesting to know more about what's happening further south, where the climate is perhaps more like UK?
 
As usual the most interesting part of the programme was Adam looking for diversification ideas post-Brexit, and what the Kiwis are doing, growing avocados and kiwi fruit.

Unfortunately Bay of Plenty is quite a bit warmer and wetter than most of UK, so no direct read-across.

If the Kiwis are growing kiwi fruit maybe we should be growing pomegranates!
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
As usual the most interesting part of the programme was Adam looking for diversification ideas post-Brexit, and what the Kiwis are doing, growing avocados and kiwi fruit.

Unfortunately Bay of Plenty is quite a bit warmer and wetter than most of UK, so no direct read-across.

It would be interesting to know more about what's happening further south, where the climate is perhaps more like UK?

Shame nobody mentions the vast numbers of 'inefficient' Kiwi farmers whose livelihoods and life savings where wiped out after 1984, making room for those 'efficient' ones to expand. Surely that's the real story of subs disappearing?:scratchhead:
 

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