Scribus
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I see a lot of insecure right wing nutters willing the government to carry out their agenda on this and other threads.
Country getting close to anarchy??
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Hesston4860s
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Happened a few years ago in neighbouring village, I can’t remember now what it was the old boy did but he got found out. Some rather big lads got him gave him a good hiding and used industrial size cable ties to afix him to the war memorial, he was also a-fixed bollock naked the police came and rescued him in the morning.
ollie989898
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Has anyone ever fired those actual rubber/plastic bullets? Not the baton round/brain grenade sort.
Scribus
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Unless the other guy has a gun of course.
Scribus
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Would those be the kiddy killers -
Shortly after their introduction it was discovered they were lethal at certain ranges.[17] Fourteen people were killed by plastic bullet impacts; half of them were children
Plastic bullet - Wikipedia
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Swarfmonkey
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Baton rounds made of rubber haven't been used by UK forces or Plod in NI since the mid 70's when they were replaced with plastic baton rounds. Some of my ugly lot were trained on them before one of the deployments. Luckily, I managed to avoid that. The lads issued with them didn't seem to be particularly fond of them.
@Scribus That's the reason they're classified as less-lethal, not non-lethal.
ollie989898
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Would those be the kiddy killers -
Shortly after their introduction it was discovered they were lethal at certain ranges.[17] Fourteen people were killed by plastic bullet impacts; half of them were children
Plastic bullet - Wikipedia
No I mean the plastic bullets that can be fired from standard small arms.
Scribus
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Swarfmonkey
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@ollie989898
I've seen numerous specialist rounds for shotguns (bean bags & stingballs for example), but none for the small arms we used. Are you getting PBR's mixed up with Simunition perchance (basically a wax ball instead of an FMJ for force-on-force training)?
I've seen numerous specialist rounds for shotguns (bean bags & stingballs for example), but none for the small arms we used. Are you getting PBR's mixed up with Simunition perchance (basically a wax ball instead of an FMJ for force-on-force training)?
ollie989898
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No, I mean actual plastic bullets that are fired from pistols or rifles and fired by (a much reduced presumably) load of propellant in a standard cartridge. You can get them in 5.56 and 7.62 I think.
Scribus
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From the link -
Speer plastic bullets, the only widely available brand, are hollow based plastic cylinders, and are available in .357/.38/9 mm, .44, and .45 calibers, and are designed for use in handguns, primarily revolvers, as the flat nose of the bullet does not feed well in most magazine fed actions. The propulsion is provided only by the primer, and the slow moving plastic bullets may be captured undamaged and reused numerous times if a suitable backstop is used. For use in revolvers, .38 Special and .44 Special versions also include plastic cases, which can be primed and de-primed by hand with minimal tools. For other calibers, standard brass cases are used.[38]
ollie989898
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I don't know but I have seen video of actual plastic bullets being used and they were pokey- nothing to stop them being used like a reduced rifle round? Fudge knows where I saw them. Thinking about it I might have handled some on a range in Poland?
Swarfmonkey
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Really bad idea, not because they won't necessarily work but because of the opportunity for the F**k Up Fairy to make their presence known. Would you really want to grab the wrong magazine by accident, and find out that you have regular ammunition in it when you actually wanted less-lethal?
Personally, i'd rather have a rifle and a baton gun rather than risk the FUF turning up.
Personally, i'd rather have a rifle and a baton gun rather than risk the FUF turning up.
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I have some non-lethal 12 guage rounds for "home defence" purposes. They'll still punch through thin ply.
I've only had one burglar here but didn't even think to grab a gun, I tackled him and broke his elbows instead; remarkably effective.
I'm a nasty little man
Empty a shotgun cartridge and refilll with wheat.(preferably below 14% moisture.
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Northeastfarmer
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Country will end up like mad max
Hilly
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- Scottish Borders.
He’s not trained and doesn’t have as many rained mates
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- West Suffolk
Has there been rioting in Italy? They’ve been in lockdown for weeks?
I certainly haven’t seen it in the news?
I certainly haven’t seen it in the news?
Hahah farmers have such a hard on for anyone being out in the street, casually forgetting they have farms that they inherited that they will wonder about in and claim they are staying at home. You don’t know how lucky you are. Your lives are very very unaffected compared to most so stop throwing your martial law ideas about .