Countryfile tonight

puppet

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Livestock Farmer
Location
sw scotland
Not sure how he got so many cattle in a short time. However there was no question of cruelty involved in those stirks. They had a bit of muck and ringworm, some a bit bellied. In other words fairly typical of a 6 month old Holstein cross calf. His in-calf heifers took off down the field at speed so give the others 18 months and so will those stirks
 

S J H

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
Not sure how he got so many cattle in a short time. However there was no question of cruelty involved in those stirks. They had a bit of muck and ringworm, some a bit bellied. In other words fairly typical of a 6 month old Holstein cross calf. His in-calf heifers took off down the field at speed so give the others 18 months and so will those stirks

But surely you'd put the best ones on tele? There's another couple of hundred somewhere.
 

puppet

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Livestock Farmer
Location
sw scotland
But surely you'd put the best ones on tele? There's another couple of hundred somewhere.
........with more ringworm, muck and horns. I agree that they were not great specimens but maybe were just the handiest ones to film. They had just been let out of a shed for the filming that day.
I am not sure the 65 plate will attract more crowdfunding but the Fendt and trailer would belong to the man who owned the sheds.
 

S J H

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
........with more ringworm, muck and horns. I agree that they were not great specimens but maybe were just the handiest ones to film. They had just been let out of a shed for the filming that day.
I am not sure the 65 plate will attract more crowdfunding but the Fendt and trailer would belong to the man who owned the sheds.
Yes I doubt the Fendt was his, I'd be a bit pee'd off to see someone that I'd given money to start up, driving a '15 plate double cab though.
 

Ysgythan

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Ammanford
I really enjoyed tonight's program, but the "I have to watch it to see what I should be really annoyed about" rule came true once again.

The man on Snowdon with his Romneys saying that his friends in New Zealand were struggling (with Romneys) and we should try and work together...

He annoyed me.

Then we had the segment on the Agri College. Who on earth can out winter cattle in the West of the UK? More Kiwimania, this time institutionalised in further education.

That annoyed me.

It was reassuring though that the PhD student was as nutty as a fruitcake.
 

Henarar

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
Then we had the segment on the Agri College. Who on earth can out winter cattle in the West of the UK? More Kiwimania, this time institutionalised in further education.
We went on a herd visit and to a farm that keeps lims and they do it more or less like they showed
 

Ysgythan

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Ammanford
We went on a herd visit and to a farm that keeps lims and they do it more or less like they showed

Good for them. The problem is impressionable youngsters feeling pressurised into persuading their parents to do it where it's not suitable i.e. in high rainfall areas, which North Wales is.

How much is the extra land going to cost? What are they going to do with the existing sheds in winter? How do you explain to a townie with a drone that paddling in sh!t is in any way a good thing for the cattle, even if it is?

If we think that after Brexit we are going to be able to rip up the environmental rule book we have another think coming...
 

Exfarmer

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Location
Bury St Edmunds
Good for them. The problem is impressionable youngsters feeling pressurised into persuading their parents to do it where it's not suitable i.e. in high rainfall areas, which North Wales is.

How much is the extra land going to cost? What are they going to do with the existing sheds in winter? How do you explain to a townie with a drone that paddling in sh!t is in any way a good thing for the cattle, even if it is?

If we think that after Brexit we are going to be able to rip up the environmental rule book we have another think coming...

I quite agree, keeping stock outside in fields in the winter, up to their hocks in mud must be an awful advert for farming and an environmental disaster.
Except it is the norm across East Anglia, with possibly millions of pigs, kept in exactly this condition. All the time with full blessing of the RSPCA and the EA it seems
 

Forever Fendt

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Location
Derbyshire
Not sure how he got so many cattle in a short time. However there was no question of cruelty involved in those stirks. They had a bit of muck and ringworm, some a bit bellied. In other words fairly typical of a 6 month old Holstein cross calf. His in-calf heifers took off down the field at speed so give the others 18 months and so will those stirks
He as obviously had to buy cheap and cheerful to get numbers so this is what you get someone else cast offs you could go to most markets around here and fit yourself up with a load of these so i don't see a problem and any issues must go back to the original home if he has not had them to long, I am not impressed with the so called crowd funding its nothing to boast about after all its 10 weeks wages for a self employed labour or less , i think more satisfaction would be gained if it was all done yourself or with family members helping out rather than others chipping in
 

Ysgythan

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Ammanford
I quite agree, keeping stock outside in fields in the winter, up to their hocks in mud must be an awful advert for farming and an environmental disaster.
Except it is the norm across East Anglia, with possibly millions of pigs, kept in exactly this condition. All the time with full blessing of the RSPCA and the EA it seems

Yes and there are store lambs on roots in many areas. If arable farmers adopt it into a rotation and become mixed farmers, especially in the East, I can see the sense, but on the high peaty bogs of West Wales?
 

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