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Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
Good for them. The problem is impressionable youngsters feeling pressurised into persuading their parents to do it where it's not suitable i.e. in high rainfall areas, which North Wales is.

How much is the extra land going to cost? What are they going to do with the existing sheds in winter? How do you explain to a townie with a drone that paddling in sh!t is in any way a good thing for the cattle, even if it is?

If we think that after Brexit we are going to be able to rip up the environmental rule book we have another think coming...
I think it is good for them from what he said but I have not seen it
couldn't do it here though, I don't think it was extra ground just drilled in to stubble then re-seeded in the spring, not sure about the sheds he had plenty of other cattle in sheds
 

JP1

Member
Livestock Farmer
I quite agree, keeping stock outside in fields in the winter, up to their hocks in mud must be an awful advert for farming and an environmental disaster.
Except it is the norm across East Anglia, with possibly millions of pigs, kept in exactly this condition. All the time with full blessing of the RSPCA and the EA it seems
I see plenty of good outdoor pig units with happy, well fed sows in good condition. Most of it on good free draining soils and blowing sands. I'd be more worried about the soil structure in the feeding alleys with wheel tracks and concentrated hooved areas even with soil restitution rippers following after wards

Doris did her best on a few of those tented kennels a few weeks back too. Not anchored and many broken ones about - not just horsey places that start to make the place look untidy

I do think the nutrition, husbandry and prophylactic veterinary attention on the outdoor pig units is good
 
He only had £4K to start? New truck, Fendt, dubarry coat and 250 cattle?
Exactly bit of a posh boy me thinks (very well spoken I may add). Not a great advert for a youngster struggling 15 plate truck and Fendt tractor hardly a true reflection on a youngster getting into farming. Young lads who come here havent got a truck to start with and whats wrong with a W plate Nissan? Wasnt impressed I imagine its on his dads farm.
 

llamedos

New Member
Exactly bit of a posh boy me thinks (very well spoken I may add). Not a great advert for a youngster struggling 15 plate truck and Fendt tractor hardly a true reflection on a youngster getting into farming. Young lads who come here havent got a truck to start with and whats wrong with a W plate Nissan? Wasnt impressed I imagine its on his dads farm.

A lot of truth in the saying 'What doesn't kill you makes you stronger' and 'A Farmers worst enemy is another Farmer'
Glad Jack is doing well, he had an idea/concept that he stuck with, and fair play to him for having the guts to do it.(y)
 
I quite agree, keeping stock outside in fields in the winter, up to their hocks in mud must be an awful advert for farming and an environmental disaster.
Except it is the norm across East Anglia, with possibly millions of pigs, kept in exactly this condition. All the time with full blessing of the RSPCA and the EA it seems


It didn't stop you renting land out to outdoor pig producers though did it?
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
It didn't stop you renting land out to outdoor pig producers though did it?

Fair comment, yes to my shame I did
I would rather not comment about that in respect to the pig keepers.

I would say though, that it is very definitely not the fault of farmers who are trying to keep animals to the dictats placed upon them.
There are many excelent free range units on land which is suitable, however there are some on totally unsuitalble sites.
I am not aware of any other country attempting to keep large numbers of intensive free range pigs in a maritime climate
 
Well as a new entrant of my own back, and Young farmer to boot - I can certainly say I have some feeling that their is more to the story than meets the eye, but then again BBC don’t really care do they? Its a feel good story for people who walk fido on the edge of the city and visit a national park twice a year, to let them feel informed about the countryside. ; I mean, I had a serious couple last week tresspassing through a field of draft swales, adamant they were rams because they had horns, who when I started to escort them off the field (and get the effing retriever back on a lead) started to TELL me about the profit in growing courgettes and why british farmers ( in lower wharfedale, on clay over grit that can poach itself in sunshine) are stuck in their ways.

Thats what its aimed for......... a little bit of info to keep the masses feeling informed. Fact, Farming relevance and quality reporting are not really the top priorities.

As for me - Some people wonder how I've done it, Similar I supposes to the cattle guy - I've brought alot of basket case draft ewes over the years, and Molasses, good worming and good grass and many have come good, given me twins and on they go to market.... a good way of getting a base flock up and running.
 

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quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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