County Council worry about Big Kit!

[Flat 10]

Are they correct though, we have a dispensation from the Police for moving vehicles up to 4.3m.
If those inconsiderately parked vehicles are preventing you going about your lawful business, then they are causing an obstruction.
Park up and call local Bobby.
Most Parish councils are populated by people who have the time on their hands to do it, and who are full of their own gas. Common sense is not part of the job description.

I have the dispensation

 

[Gadget]

On our lanes it is commuters refusing to understand that they are single track roads with passing places. They would rather go 10m past a passing place and then squeeze past on the verge, eventually the verges are first flat and level with the tarmac and then lower than the tarmac.

 

[Flat 10]

Are they correct though, we have a dispensation from the Police for moving vehicles up to 4.3m.
If those inconsiderately parked vehicles are preventing you going about your lawful business, then they are causing an obstruction.
Park up and call local Bobby.
Most Parish Councils are populated by people who have the time on their hands to do it, and who are full of their own gas. Common sense is not part of the job description.

I don’t know if I have a ‘right’ to access using wide equipment.

 

[spin cycle]

I have the dispensation

yeah but thats nothing to do with farm kit

I don’t know if I have a ‘right’ to access using wide equipment.

bragging again

 

[Flat 10]

yeah but thats nothing to do with farm kit



bragging again

Helpful as ever

 

[spin cycle]

actually ..thinking about it.....round here theres actually less farm traffic than there used to........local big agri business has big combine +chaser bin + artic.....can't remember last time i met drill/cultivator.....see sp sprayer sometimes but all their drivers are very curteous/careful

odd mad straw carter

reckon real problem is in dairy/ad areas.....big super dairies having to cart slurry/silage for miles

 

[sjt01]

actually ..thinking about it.....round here theres actually less farm traffic than there used to........local big agri business has big combine +chaser bin + artic.....can't remember last time i met drill/cultivator.....see sp sprayer sometimes but all their drivers are very curteous/careful

odd mad straw carter

reckon real problem is in dairy/ad areas.....big super dairies having to cart slurry/silage for miles

Hope the mad straw carter was not us - not too much to bring home from Dalling this year! (JCB tele & red 2 axle trailer). We did have an incident by your road end a few years ago when a council recycling truck with wire mesh sides tried to get past a corn trailer by repeatedly reversing and ramming into the back of the trailer!

 

[britt]

Most Parish Councils are populated by people who have the time on their hands to do it, and who are full of their own gas. Common sense is not part of the job description.

If you don't like the way your Parish Council operate stand for election next time, you will then have the chance to point these things out as they arise.
I only stood for election because I was fed up with people who thought that they knew it all, made bad decisions such as putting benches and trees on verges so that the hedges couldn't be trimmed etc and after a couple of years moved away, to be replaced by another who hadn't been there long.

This is the same parish council that ignored any of our objections to new pubs, nurseries and other businesses opening in the village due to lack of parking and now won’t help us.

The Parish Council don't make planning decisions, they only pass on the local view of an application to the Borough Council, who make the decisions, they should have considered your comments which you made to them, assuming that you did, when submitting their comments to the planners.

 

[Martin Holden]

Put a tax on any tractor over 100HP, that would sort it!!

You’ll be popular! But it’s a thought though I must admit

 

[spin cycle]

Hope the mad straw carter was not us - not too much to bring home from Dalling this year! (JCB tele & red 2 axle trailer). We did have an incident by your road end a few years ago when a council recycling truck with wire mesh sides tried to get past a corn trailer by repeatedly reversing and ramming into the back of the trailer!

no your lads are pretty good .....got behind one of your trailers briefly yesterday in binham before he turned off

daughter got run off road last year...teleporter + trailer....bale of straw on forks....heading into setting sun......didn't even see her i reckon .....bugger all straw hauled about here this year

i think remember seeing the recycled truck incident as it was right where our lane joins road and i happened along

we have a mad bearded pigmen in a jd that terrorises the neighbourhood sometimes....an irrate villager once flagged me down and told me off about him....that was 'different'

 

[Exfarmer]

Roads have absolutely nothing to do with the parish council or local borough council, they may moan and groan all they like , but it is the County council who are responsible.
However there is a big but, many vehicles today using these roads are wider than the standard back lane, many of these are only 8 ( approx 2.45 metres) feet in law and that often includes the verge!
Many of the modern vehicles and their tyres are very much wider than this.
Certainly poor drainage caused by filling in the roadside ditches is causing big issues, but then many of those ditches were pushed in by the big vehicles passing

 

[David.]

Is it OK to dig out your ditch and slub the spoil up on the edge of the road?

 

[Courier]

Councils are as bad as anyone using bigger and bigger equipment for doing the same job.

Wakefield used to have a MF35 with a Winsam cab to bring the market stalls from their depot into town centres twice a week so that market traders could stand outside in all weathers freezing their ballocks off until 16:00 when they would pack up and go back home.
Then the perfectly serviceable tractor was upgraded twice and is now an all singing all dancing 5090M series John Deere doing almost as much work as the 35 trundling a reduced number of unbraked 4 wheeled trolleys (Cant really call them trailers) to and from the depot twice per week .....


It's called progress ....

 

[Flat 10]

If you don't like the way your Parish Council operate stand for election next time, you will then have the chance to point these things out as they arise.
I only stood for election because I was fed up with people who thought that they knew it all, made bad decisions such as putting benches and trees on verges so that the hedges couldn't be trimmed etc and after a couple of years moved away, to be replaced by another who hadn't been there long.

The Parish Council don't make planning decisions, they only pass on the local view of an application to the Borough Council, who make the decisions, they should have considered your comments which you made to them, assuming that you did, when submitting their comments to the planners.

I don't live in the parish so don't think it would be appropriate for me to be on the council if it was/is allowed.

 

[Flat 10]

Roads have absolutely nothing to do with the parish council or local borough council, they may moan and groan all they like , but it is the County council who are responsible.
However there is a big but, many vehicles today using these roads are wider than the standard back lane, many of these are only 8 ( approx 2.45 metres) feet in law and that often includes the verge!
Many of the modern vehicles and their tyres are very much wider than this.
Certainly poor drainage caused by filling in the roadside ditches is causing big issues, but then many of those ditches were pushed in by the big vehicles passing

Complained to my county councillor and not even had an acknowledgement. He might not get my vote next time.

 

[ollie989898]

On our lanes it is commuters refusing to understand that they are single track roads with passing places. They would rather go 10m past a passing place and then squeeze past on the verge, eventually the verges are first flat and level with the tarmac and then lower than the tarmac.

Ah. There are some places in Somerset where verges exist that no tractor driver should ever venture upon as they are often very very soft and a loaded trailer is likely to sink in and probably go over with not much provocation. As you can imagine car drivers do not always appreciate this fact and assume you are being a road hog and being uncooperative....

 

[betweenthelines]

We have land through a dead end village with no alternative route. The road is 2 lane and therefore plenty wide enough for any machinery we want to take down there but the issue we have is inconsiderate parking at all times of day. Our machinery isn’t that large by modern standards and we aren’t the only farm business affected. I have tried to engage with the parish council before the situation gets any worse and they just say that if our vehicle is over 2.55m wide it’s our problem and that it’s illegal for us to go in the pavement. This is the same parish council that ignored any of our objections to new pubs, nurseries and other businesses opening in the village due to lack of parking and now won’t help us. Anybody have any experience of a situation like this and any useful advice to offer? Oh and yes we have had the local lunatic maize contractors souring relations which hasn’t helped at all. I’m tempted to take the combine down there and get stuck, take the keys out and leave it there but that is likely to make things worse.

If there's a fire and the Engine can't get through, they'll wish they listened to you.

What's the PC reason for saying it's your problem if your vehicle is over 2.55m ? You are legally entitled to take larger vehicles on the public highway.

 

[ollie989898]

We have land through a dead end village with no alternative route. The road is 2 lane and therefore plenty wide enough for any machinery we want to take down there but the issue we have is inconsiderate parking at all times of day. Our machinery isn’t that large by modern standards and we aren’t the only farm business affected. I have tried to engage with the parish council before the situation gets any worse and they just say that if our vehicle is over 2.55m wide it’s our problem and that it’s illegal for us to go in the pavement. This is the same parish council that ignored any of our objections to new pubs, nurseries and other businesses opening in the village due to lack of parking and now won’t help us. Anybody have any experience of a situation like this and any useful advice to offer? Oh and yes we have had the local lunatic maize contractors souring relations which hasn’t helped at all. I’m tempted to take the combine down there and get stuck, take the keys out and leave it there but that is likely to make things worse.

All you can do is put letters through doors notifying of the intended date of entry? If a vehicle over 2.55m can't get through how will a fire engine or ambulance?

 

[Exfarmer]

If there's a fire and the Engine can't get through, they'll wish they listened to you.

What's the PC reason for saying it's your problem if your vehicle is over 2.55m ? You are legally entitled to take larger vehicles on the public highway.

You are not factually correct, if the highway is just 8 feet wide, you are technically trespassing on the adjoining landowners property. It is though legal if the tyres do not exceed the highway width as you cannot trespass by overhanging.

 

[Stephen E]

All of this is soon forgotten when it snows and the good old farmer clears the road for nothing.
Roads were built for driving on, not parking cars on. Some villages around here are impassable with larger machinery, causing quite lengthy diversions.